Free and independent Kurdistan is coming soon.

[Piro Ilir]

Russia I guarantying the Kurds in Syria and Turkey at least an autonomy and weapons. Because of Russia, Turkey and Syrian will be federal. Like the Russians established an autonomy in Iraq. So all Kurds can build further on their common future in peace. Russia is also a FEDERATION!

According to Putin: Turkey, Iraq and Syria should be the same FEDERATION as Russia!


At this moment Russia is a GLOBAL superpower. King of Kings. It is in much better position that the USA.


Russians defeated the USA in Northern Caucasus, in Crimea, in Ukraine and now in the Middle East.



The USA tried to weaken Russia through Islam, lol. They did the same with Daesh retard monkeys, what they did with AL-Qaeda in Central Asia. But they FAILED! PKK defeated Daesh.

You are too contradictory. You said in another post, that Turkey will be destroyed.

 

[Piro Ilir]

Give it up already with him. post WW1 the Kurds declared an Independent state in Northwest of Iran, the Soviets were close allies with Kurds back than and supplied them with military equipment resulting in various defeats for the Persian army who were already used to it by the horsemans of Simko Shikak (whom they only could defeat by a trap in which they poisned him), and bringing fears in the now very young Turkish republic. A little stay in middle of Persia and modern Turkey was the reson for various geopolitical conflicts. The Persian, back than allies of the British and Americans (Anglo_Persian company) and Turkey new allies of the US brought rumors up and accused the Kurdish Mahabad republic of being "Communists" because they were allied to the Soviet Union. They asked the Western powers to put presure on Moscow to withdraw their support for the Kurds. And it worked. After an agreement with the Soviets Moscow abondened the Kurds to their fate, being slowly swallowed by the Anglo_Persian army.

Back than the Prasident was Qazi Mohammed and his commander of the army was Mustafa Barzani, who went there after fighting the British-Iraqi alliance in Iraqi Kurdistan. Since the beggining of the 20th century the Kurds had not only to fight all their neighbors what on itself was bad enough but also their allies (Especially the British colonial powers). Persia was than the best buddy of Britain.

But this doesn't seem to bother Goga. That his Persian buddies were oppressing the Kurds with help of Britain.

After the West came to an agreement with the Soviets, the Soviets simply abondened the Kurds. Without military support this was the beginning of the downfall against the Persians and their British allies. And this is also when the famous march of Mustafa Barzani and 500 of his fighters through Iran and Turkey into the Soviet union. On his way through Turkey a regiment o 2000 Turkish soldier put themselves in their way only to be defeated in days and Mustafa Barzani and his fighters keeping their path to Soviet Union.

Arrived in Moscow it is said that Mustafa Barzani knocked on the door with the words, "Here is the voice of the Kurds, you abandoned, speaking.". The Soviet union decided to host him and his fighters for over 10 years and support his plans to regain som ground in Kurdistan, (probably because the Soviets knew he was right and felt guilty for abandoning the Kurds).

Thats how it ws back than we Kurds were te allies of Russia while Iran and Turkey allies of the West. How fast geopolitical relationships can change.

This was the second, but unfortunately not the last time the Kurds had to learn the hard way to never rely on anyone else. This is how the Kurdish proverb "No friends but the mountains came to live."


Relying on Russia or the West for that matter, that they would completely put aside their own interests to support us is not only naive and dumb but in the case of a Kurdish individual simply sad.

Geopolitics never worked the way of who is right and who is wrong but who is my ally and what suits my own interests most.

And this is how we Kurds need act and our politicians seem to have learned from the failures of the past (at least for most). You can't rely on the world powers, but you also can't without them.

Interesting . I agree. But today we have a different situation. The west is lead by USA, which is the protector of democracy. The whole solution of the world problems we could find within the democracy. It's better for Kurds to be to the right side

 

[Goga]

You are too contradictory. You said in another post, that Turkey will be destroyed.

When there will be a civil war, Turkey will be totally destroyed. But there’s still no civil war in Turkey.

Turkey is already destroyed. Turkey from now on will never be same as Turkey 1 year ago.

Turkey is as weak and unimportant as Kosovo and Albania. A useless country. It will have the same status as Kosovo in the IR.

 

[Goga]

You are too contradictory. You said in another post, that Turkey will be destroyed.

I'm not really pro-Iran. I'm pro-Aryan Union in the future. An union between Persia and independent Great Kurdistan. At this moment Turkey is a bigger threat and enemy of Kurds. First we have to liberate Northern Kurdistan. Then we will liberate the Eastern (Iranian) Kurdistan.

Sunni Islam, Daesh, Turkey, Islamists Kurdish leader (Barzani) are our top priority.

Sooner or later we will liberate Eastern Kurdistan from Persians. Eastern Kurdistan is a place where a Kurdish race has been born. Very important to us. But Turkey needs to go down FIRST.

 

[Goga]

In an interview with Interfax news agency, Novikov said that according to the intelligence services, there are about 2,000 Russian citizens fighting amongst ISIS militants; however experts put the number at nearly 5,000.
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/news/europe/19308-more-than-2000-russians-joined-isis

Those are Muslim Chechens, or other Muslims from Northern Caucasus.

 

[DuPidh]

I’m not really pro-Iran. I'm prr-Aryan Union in the future. An union between Persia and independent Great Kurdistan. At this moment Turkey is a bigger threat and enemy of Kurds. First we have to liberate Northern Kurdistan. Than we will liberate the Eastern (Iranian) Kurdistan.

Sunni Islam, Daesh, Turkey, Islamists Kurdish leader (Barzani) are our top priority.

Sooner or later we will liberate Eastern Kurdistan from Persians. Eastern Kurdistan is a place where a Kurdish race has been born. Very important to us. But Turkey needs to go down FIRST.

Your words in God's ears! Good luck in your struggle! Just check one more time the calculations for blunders!

 

[Piro Ilir]

When there will be a civil war, Turkey will be totally destroyed. But there’s still no civil war in Turkey.

Turkey is already destroyed. Turkey from now on will never be same as Turkey 1 year ago.

Turkey is as weak and unimportant as Kosovo and Albania. A useless country. It will have the same status as Kosovo in the IR.

Comparing whether the Turkish nation and the Kurdish nation with the Albanian nation is nonsense. The Albanian populace is 6 million people. Kurdish are 40 million, and Turkish even more. Turks are a great nation. Also are the Iranians. Albanians are just a little nation, that's all. Albanians are the last remains of the great and the largest nation of the antiquity, ylliri- tracians.

 

[Piro Ilir]

I'm not really pro-Iran. I'm pro-Aryan Union in the future. An union between Persia and independent Great Kurdistan. At this moment Turkey is a bigger threat and enemy of Kurds. First we have to liberate Northern Kurdistan. Then we will liberate the Eastern (Iranian) Kurdistan.

Sunni Islam, Daesh, Turkey, Islamists Kurdish leader (Barzani) are our top priority.

Sooner or later we will liberate Eastern Kurdistan from Persians. Eastern Kurdistan is a place where a Kurdish race has been born. Very important to us. But Turkey needs to go down FIRST.

What about Hezbollah. What about the Shiite terrorist regime of Iran ?

 

[LeBrok]

What about Hezbollah. What about the Shiite terrorist regime of Iran ?

What with the tricky questions? You'll ruin his beautiful dream!

 

[LeBrok]

I was able to catch part of Putin's speech in UN. Seems that he is really concerned with jihadists coming from Russia to fight with ISIS. It is a huge concern as there is about 20 million Muslims living in Russia. The last thing he wants is for them to start building Caliphate in Russia.
Here is my take what he might want to accomplish.
He might want to destroy the purpose of new jihadists cause, the so called Caliphate in Syria and Iraq. Defeating "Caliphate"/ISIS will take away the dogma, the ideology, that this is a biblical Caliphate, which supposedly will rule the Earth till the end of times. For many religious young Muslims (young people by nature are very idealistic), to think that Islam will rule the world as only religion is a very catchy idea. ISIS claims that it is a vehicle to accomplish the goal, catches their minds and draws them into the fight.
Well, Putin might be up for something good this time.

Secondary Putin's goal might be to push the Daesh fighters through West Iraq into Saudi Arabia to destabilize their oil production, and by doing it to raise worlds oil prices.

 

[Goga]

And now its game ON. Putin, I salute you! For mother RUSSIA!

Unlike the US, Russian is going to destroy Sunny Muslim subhuman monkeys, the creation of the US and Israel, for REAL.

Oh, and also there are very great developments in Israel and Palestine. What goes around comes around. Israel and the US created a warzone in Kurdistan and now they will get what they deserve, agony and hellfire!


They committed, by using Sunni Islam, a GENOCIDE on my people, the OLDEST people on this planet. Such a crime against humanity will NEVER remain unpunished, be it today be it tomorrow, criminals will pay the price.

 

[Sile]

I agree with Goga

plus why does USA play the same game as russia...........USA ask the kurds to attack ISIL and then allow the turks to attack the Kurds, come on USA , you are doing the same thing, stop the turks and ask the turks why they do not attack ISIL.

USA patting kurds on the back with one hand then stabbing in the back with the other hand. announce the kurds a homeland and stop the turks, then ISIL will fall

USA is losing face with its European friends playing these silly games

 

[LeBrok]

I agree with Goga

plus why does USA play the same game as russia...........USA ask the kurds to attack ISIL and then allow the turks to attack the Kurds, come on USA , you are doing the same thing, stop the turks and ask the turks why they do not attack ISIL.

USA patting kurds on the back with one hand then stabbing in the back with the other hand. announce the kurds a homeland and stop the turks, then ISIL will fall

USA is losing face with its European friends playing these silly games

Since when USA controls Turkey?

 

[Boreas]

And now its game ON. Putin, I salute you! For mother RUSSIA!

Unlike the US, Russian is going to destroy Sunny Muslim subhuman monkeys, the creation of the US and Israel, for REAL.

Oh, and also there are very great developments in Israel and Palestine. What goes around comes around. Israel and the US created a warzone in Kurdistan and now they will get what they deserve, agony and hellfire!


They committed, by using Sunni Islam, a GENOCIDE on my people, the OLDEST people on this planet. Such a crime against humanity will NEVER remain unpunished, be it today be it tomorrow, criminals will pay the price.

You have listened Pan-Kurdish News. If you finished your bloody black propoganda, Let's talk the reality.


Russia said they attacked ISIS but they didn't. They hit Free Syrian Army. Free Syrian Army is easy target. Western support is very limited for them and they are the barrier between Kurds and Assadm. If they gone, the west part of area which is controled by Syrian Kurd would be open for him. I am wondering what will you do, if Russian bombs hit Afrin for Assad's interest.

I agree with Goga

plus why does USA play the same game as russia...........USA ask the kurds to attack ISIL and then allow the turks to attack the Kurds, come on USA , you are doing the same thing, stop the turks and ask the turks why they do not attack ISIL.

USA patting kurds on the back with one hand then stabbing in the back with the other hand. announce the kurds a homeland and stop the turks, then ISIL will fall

USA is losing face with its European friends playing these silly games

Lack of empathy can be read your words, Typical Far Western. These people are living under the borders which were created by people like you.

 

[Piro Ilir]

I was able to catch part of Putin's speech in UN. Seems that he is really concerned with jihadists coming from Russia to fight with ISIS. It is a huge concern as there is about 20 million Muslims living in Russia. The last thing he wants is for them to start building Caliphate in Russia.
Here is my take what he might want to accomplish.
He might want to destroy the purpose of new jihadists cause, the so called Caliphate in Syria and Iraq. Defeating "Caliphate"/ISIS will take away the dogma, the ideology, that this is a biblical Caliphate, which supposedly will rule the Earth till the end of times. For many religious young Muslims (young people by nature are very idealistic), to think that Islam will rule the world as only religion is a very catchy idea. ISIS claims that it is a vehicle to accomplish the goal, catches their minds and draws them into the fight.
Well, Putin might be up for something good this time.

Secondary Putin's goal might be to push the Daesh fighters through West Iraq into Saudi Arabia to destabilize their oil production, and by doing it to raise worlds oil prices.

What they speak in UN, doesn't necessarily mean their true thoughts. His problem is to have keep the influence onto middle east. They have already start a new influence in Yemen. I think Russia and Iran are working hard. I heard that Putin is bombing the liberal anti- Assad fighters, not the Isis. It would be difficult to bring him away from there. I think we have a new cold war. As soon we admit it, better would be for us.

 

[Piro Ilir]

And now its game ON. Putin, I salute you! For mother RUSSIA!

Unlike the US, Russian is going to destroy Sunny Muslim subhuman monkeys, the creation of the US and Israel, for REAL.

Oh, and also there are very great developments in Israel and Palestine. What goes around comes around. Israel and the US created a warzone in Kurdistan and now they will get what they deserve, agony and hellfire!


They committed, by using Sunni Islam, a GENOCIDE on my people, the OLDEST people on this planet. Such a crime against humanity will NEVER remain unpunished, be it today be it tomorrow, criminals will pay the price.

You saying that USA made war crimes against Kurds? Do you have any argument, or just Iranian propaganda.

 

[Piro Ilir]

I agree with Goga

plus why does USA play the same game as russia...........USA ask the kurds to attack ISIL and then allow the turks to attack the Kurds, come on USA , you are doing the same thing, stop the turks and ask the turks why they do not attack ISIL.

USA patting kurds on the back with one hand then stabbing in the back with the other hand. announce the kurds a homeland and stop the turks, then ISIL will fall

USA is losing face with its European friends playing these silly games

What? Losing face! !! Why? Because you like so. If some Kurds are pro Iranian, of course USA is not gonna support them. USA support those who are pro western.

 

[Alan]

too many delusional fantasies going around here.

1. First and major reason for Russia finally starting their airstrikes in Syria is that Damascus regime is on the edge of destruction. When Russia announced their plans of airstrikes and ground forces, ISIS and/or FSA had just reached the doors of Damascus. It's all about saving the own ally in the Near East and not really the ISIS threat. The ISIS threat doesn't exist just since yesterday so why not conduct airstrikes on ISIS earlier? Anyways didn't the West start their airstrikes much earlier while Russia and China were using their veto to stop any inteference in Syria? And now while Russia is doing it themselve everyone seems happy. It's a little bit paradox there. So whats all this fuss about Russian airstries? It's definitely good if they want to hit ISIS. But I even see people who were completely against US airstrikes suddenly praising and supporting those airstrikes. So is it really about the "fight against ISIS and the airstrikes" or in reality just about who conducts them?

2. Russia has realized that ISIS (a large part of them Russian citizens) is becoming a danger for Russia and it's allies themselves.

3. Neither the West nor the East will start to bomb the Kurds. One reason for this is, Kurds have managed to gain popularity and the image of the third, neutral and only realy democratic group in Syria. Non of the two sides could justify an attack on Kurds. Neither Putin nor the too passive Obama is the enemy of the Kurds. Russia invited various times Kurdish representatives from Iraq and Syria and gave support for Kurdish ambitions so did US representatives. This is why Putin acknowledged in his UN speech that Kurds and "Assad" are the only once really fighting ISIS and should be supported.


4. It seems to me like "Kurds" have become a synonym for "the good guys" in this conflict that both sides are using the Kurds like an attribute in combination with their own allies to give them more credibility and popularity. This is why the US talks always about "the brave Kurds and their Rebel 'rebel allies'." this makes the impression that "rebels must be also good guys since they are the allies of the Kurds who we know are the good Guys". The same with the Damascus regime. "Well if the Damascus regime is also fighting the ISIS just like the Kurds, who we know are good guys, than the Regime can't be so bad at all".

Being associated with Kurds in this conflict seems to be good promo. If we Kurds are smart we could use this for our own benefits and I think our politicians are not dumb and they are already doing this. Neverless this doesn't change the fact for me that the Damascus regime has lost it's credibility and should never again gain the control of all Syria. Syria must be ruled or even divided by the different groups, there is no way around that. As much I don't trust the "Syrian rebels" who change their colors from one day to another and are often almost identical to JAN(Al Qaida) and ISIS. Those "Rebels" gaining control of all Syria would be as a big catastrophy. It would become a training camp for ISIS/Al Qaida affiliated groups.

5. When ISIS is gone I highly doubt that Russia will conduct attacks on Kurds on behalf of the Damascus regime in fact I assume they will try to find a consensus between Damascus and Kurds. So will the US, they also try to find a consensus between Rebel-groups and Kurds. Non of the both will attack the Kurds on behalf of their allies.

Unfortunately I doubt they will do anything if their allies start to attack the Kurds either. Just like Russia didn't bother the decades Syrian Regime attacks and US the FSA-Turkey attacks on Kurdish territory. They will call it "internal problems" and remain silent.


So no need for wet dreams

 

[Yetos]

What? Losing face! !! Why? Because you like so. If some Kurds are pro Iranian, of course USA is not gonna support them. USA support those who are pro western.

come on,
and you are pro-USA,

they play games against humans there,
and USA is not innocent.

 

[Yetos]

@ Alan

wait to see, the game does not finish here,
wait when the Oyghurs arrive at Daesh land,
China brought Aircarriers at 2014 at |East mediterrenean, and is planning again to bring
and EU simply argues about immigrants,
did not take any serious military action yet,
wait to see Boco Haram travel to Syria

it is a long way there,
may the Gods show mercy there,
cause we live the times of Eris of the 5th Human era, the start of the end of Iron race,