U.S. & Israel Attack Iran

[kingdavid]

I Was in shelter for 40 days
Eating crap
And for what nethanyahu can't win

 

[Jovialis]

Nice!

https://finance.yahoo.com/chart/CL=F#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

Oil is down 15 %, but it is still very expensive. I guess Trump wants a way out, but Israel will keep on poking.

Hopefully, in two weeks, if they solidify a more permanent agreement, it will sink further.

I think it is correct that Israel is more gung-ho on continuing the war. However, I wonder what the details of the 10 point plan are that allowed both Trump and Iran to put conflict aside for now.

 

[bicicleur 2]

Now it will depend on whether Hormuz realy stays free and open and on what happens in Lebanon.

 

[Vallicanus]

The 10-point plan includes the lifting of all sanctions and UN resolutions concerning Iran, the release of frozen Iranian assets, the withdrawal of U.S. combat forces from bases across the region and Iran's right to nuclear enrichment.

Good luck after the two weeks are over.

 

[Tautalus]

And also the reopening of the Strait of Hormuz "supervised and regulated by Iran", which means the continuation of Iranian control over the Strait.

 

[kingdavid]

There will be more rounds in this conflict in the future
I am sure ( probably without u.s.a help)

 

[Duarte]

“A nation that once styled itself as a force for stability around the globe is now shaking the foundations of the international order. A president who has seemingly relished shattering norms and traditions in domestic politics is now doing the same on the world stage.”

Iran ceasefire deal gives Trump a way out of war - but at a high cost

What we know about the two-week ceasefire between the US and Iran

 

[Jovialis]

Not only is Netanyahu perpetuating the conflict, and causing global suffering; he is creating a new refugee crisis that the EU and the West will be saddled with!

Reopening of the Strait of Hormuz in jeopardy after Israeli attack on Lebanon​

Reopening of the Strait of Hormuz in jeopardy after Israeli attack on Lebanon

Iran closed the Strait of Hormuz and claimed Israel violated a ceasefire agreement by launching a major attack against Lebanon on Wednesday.

abcnews.com

 

[davef]

Not only is Netanyahu perpetuating the conflict, and causing global suffering; he is creating a new refugee crisis that the EU and the West will be saddled with!

Reopening of the Strait of Hormuz in jeopardy after Israeli attack on Lebanon​

Reopening of the Strait of Hormuz in jeopardy after Israeli attack on Lebanon

Iran closed the Strait of Hormuz and claimed Israel violated a ceasefire agreement by launching a major attack against Lebanon on Wednesday.

abcnews.com

IS THIS A ******* JOKE?????? WHY LEBANON? Is he looking for a new Islamic civilization to destroy to keep himself busy before the ceasefire ends????? (yes I know Lebanon prob has the least amt of Muslims in the Levant but prob enough to get him to want to attack over there).

I bet this will excite Trump enough to make up stories about Lebanon and help Netenwacko go after them instead, afterall the ceasefire is with Iran (and not Lebanon, Jordan, Iraq, Syria, Egypt, Saudi and all the other Muslim countries Netenyahu hates).

It's like they're tag-teaming back to back to take turns ruining things for the rest of us. Trump gave the baton and now its Netenwacko's race.

 

[bicicleur 2]

Strait of Hormuz has immediately become the first major flash point of Trump's 'fragile' ceasefire

A two-week ceasefire in Iran began Wednesday in stops and starts, with the Trump administration and Iran at odds about the contours of the deal to reopen the Strait of Hormuz.

finance.yahoo.com

But that truce appeared to be in immediate jeopardy on Wednesday as Iran’s semiofficial ‌Fars news agency claimed that tanker traffic was “halted” over Israel’s continued strikes in Lebanon and the Wall Street Journal reported that Iran had told mediators it would limit the number of ships crossing to around a dozen a day — a fraction of the more than 130 that passed each day before the war.

In a briefing with reporters on Wednesday, White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt called the Fars claims about a halt in traffic false and said any closing of the strait would be “completely unacceptable.” She also said the US is supportive of Israel's position that Lebanon is not part of this ceasefire.

Trump hasn't learned his lesson yet.

 

[kingdavid]

Dave f
We are in a conflict with lebanon
hizballa shooting at our people in the north
like crazy
like hamas they are extremely fanatic muslim
terror organization
people here hate nethanyahu because he is jewish
i don't like him for other reason because he doesn't finish the job he give blows to our enemies but doesn't finish them.

 

[bicicleur 2]

Strait of Hormuz has immediately become the first major flash point of Trump's 'fragile' ceasefire

A two-week ceasefire in Iran began Wednesday in stops and starts, with the Trump administration and Iran at odds about the contours of the deal to reopen the Strait of Hormuz.

finance.yahoo.com

But that truce appeared to be in immediate jeopardy on Wednesday as Iran’s semiofficial ‌Fars news agency claimed that tanker traffic was “halted” over Israel’s continued strikes in Lebanon and the Wall Street Journal reported that Iran had told mediators it would limit the number of ships crossing to around a dozen a day — a fraction of the more than 130 that passed each day before the war.

In a briefing with reporters on Wednesday, White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt called the Fars claims about a halt in traffic false and said any closing of the strait would be “completely unacceptable.” She also said the US is supportive of Israel's position that Lebanon is not part of this ceasefire.

Trump hasn't learned his lesson yet.

Dave f
We are in a conflict with lebanon
hizballa shooting at our people in the north
like crazy
like hamas they are extremely fanatic muslim
terror organization
people here hate nethanyahu because he is jewish
i don't like him for other reason because he doesn't finish the job he give blows to our enemies but doesn't finish them.

people don't hate nethanyahu for being Jewish, they hate him and his extreme right-wing government for being extremely fanatic too

 

[davef]

Dave f
We are in a conflict with lebanon
hizballa shooting at our people in the north
like crazy
like hamas they are extremely fanatic muslim
terror organization
people here hate nethanyahu because he is jewish
i don't like him for other reason because he doesn't finish the job he give blows to our enemies but doesn't finish them.

Netenyahu could be Chinese, Scottish, Greek, a talking toad, whatever and that would have zero impact on our reaction. We would still condemn his acts.

 

[Vallicanus]

The basic problem is that Islam, particularly in its extreme form, sees no place for the Jews in its world view.

If I were Israeli, I would want safety from Hizbollah attacks.

 

[kingdavid]

The basic problem is that Islam, particularly in its extreme form, sees no place for the Jews in its world view.

If I were Israeli, I would want safety from Hizbollah attacks.

Bingo
Smart vallicanus

 

[bicicleur 2]

The basic problem is that Islam, particularly in its extreme form, sees no place for the Jews in its world view.

If I were Israeli, I would want safety from Hizbollah attacks.

That does not justify what happens on the west bank. These Jewish settlers are extremists too, and they are backed up by the Israely government that legalizes land theft and even murder.

 

[Vallicanus]

That does not justify what happens on the west bank. These Jewish settlers are extremists too, and they are backed up by the Israely government that legalizes land theft and even murder.

All deaths are regrettable but Israel is fighting for its very existence against merciless and numerous foes.
What do you expect from Israel exactly?
Sit around the campfire with Hizbollah and other assorted terrorists and sing "Kumbaya" together?

 

[bicicleur 2]

The basic problem is that Islam, particularly in its extreme form, sees no place for the Jews in its world view.

If I were Israeli, I would want safety from Hizbollah attacks.

That does not justify what happens on the west bank. These Jewish settlers are extremists too, and they are backed up by the Israely government that legalizes land theft and even murder.

All deaths are regrettable but Israel is fighting for its very existence against merciless and numerous foes.
What do you expect from Israel exactly?
Sit around the campfire with Hizbollah and other assorted terrorists and sing "Kumbaya" together?

This has nothing to do with fighting for its existence.

 

[Jovialis]

Donald Trump is the Vice President of Israel it seems, what a disgrace to the United States!

 

[kingdavid]

The basic problem is that Islam, particularly in its extreme form, sees no place for the Jews in its world view.

If I were Israeli, I would want safety from Hizbollah attacks.

Bingo
Smart vallicanus

That does not justify what happens on the west bank. These Jewish settlers are extremists too, and they are backed up by the Israely government that legalizes land theft and even murder.

This has nothing to do with fighting for its existence.

Judea and Samaria