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I'd like to share a conversation I had yesterday with my good friend Grace, who is a Christian. I asked her how she felt about the fact that I am not a Christian, and that I don't believe in a god that is anything like the Christian god. I wanted to know if she had any hopes for my joining the flock, and how she saw her responsibility towards me and others like me, as a Christian.
Her answers enlightened me. She started by describing her relationship with god, using the diagram attached. The three circles represent father, son and holy spirit, and the shaded area is Grace. But she explained that this is her personal experience, and for others it may be different. She asked how I saw it. I explained that I appreciate Nature, and believe that science can explain it. Grace said that for God, my experience is as valid as hers - because for God it is enough that I appreciate Nature (or in Grace's words 'his creation'), and what I understand about it doesn't matter.
When we stand outside together and watch a rainbow, Grace enjoys it because it reminds her of God's promise not to send another flood. I enjoy it because it amazes me that sunlight shining through a tiny raindrop can produce something so beautiful. Grace says our different understandings are irrelevant - her god sees that we are both transfixed on his (or in my case Nature's) rainbow, and he is satisfied.
What about her responsibilities? I asked if she prays for me. She says she prays in general for everyone to be content. But there are several reasons why she wouldn't pray for someone to be a Christian.
First, she says that God gave us free will. If she were to pray for me to get something I have said I don't want, she sees that as trying to take away the free will that God has given me, and she thinks it's wrong to second-guess her god.
Secondly, she sees that praying for me would probably have the opposite effect from what she would want - it would push me away instead of bringing me closer.
Thirdly, she points out that in Matthew 20 (I think :? ), Jesus walked by until he was called. Grace's interpretation of this is that Jesus didn't give 'salvation' unless someone asked. He simply offered people the chance to follow him, and gave witness - but at no point did he try to persuade people. So Grace sees it as her responsibility to talk to people about Jesus, and to describe her relationship with god, but in no way to actively recruit people.
Finally, she referred back to her original point. She doesn't think it's necessary to worry about the fact that I'm not a Christian, as I have an appreciation for and understanding of Nature, which in her opinion is a valid experience of God, even if I don't call it that. The people she worries about are those who don't have any understanding of how they fit into (in her words) God's creation.
Isn't my friend Grace great?
Her answers enlightened me. She started by describing her relationship with god, using the diagram attached. The three circles represent father, son and holy spirit, and the shaded area is Grace. But she explained that this is her personal experience, and for others it may be different. She asked how I saw it. I explained that I appreciate Nature, and believe that science can explain it. Grace said that for God, my experience is as valid as hers - because for God it is enough that I appreciate Nature (or in Grace's words 'his creation'), and what I understand about it doesn't matter.
When we stand outside together and watch a rainbow, Grace enjoys it because it reminds her of God's promise not to send another flood. I enjoy it because it amazes me that sunlight shining through a tiny raindrop can produce something so beautiful. Grace says our different understandings are irrelevant - her god sees that we are both transfixed on his (or in my case Nature's) rainbow, and he is satisfied.
What about her responsibilities? I asked if she prays for me. She says she prays in general for everyone to be content. But there are several reasons why she wouldn't pray for someone to be a Christian.
First, she says that God gave us free will. If she were to pray for me to get something I have said I don't want, she sees that as trying to take away the free will that God has given me, and she thinks it's wrong to second-guess her god.
Secondly, she sees that praying for me would probably have the opposite effect from what she would want - it would push me away instead of bringing me closer.
Thirdly, she points out that in Matthew 20 (I think :? ), Jesus walked by until he was called. Grace's interpretation of this is that Jesus didn't give 'salvation' unless someone asked. He simply offered people the chance to follow him, and gave witness - but at no point did he try to persuade people. So Grace sees it as her responsibility to talk to people about Jesus, and to describe her relationship with god, but in no way to actively recruit people.
Finally, she referred back to her original point. She doesn't think it's necessary to worry about the fact that I'm not a Christian, as I have an appreciation for and understanding of Nature, which in her opinion is a valid experience of God, even if I don't call it that. The people she worries about are those who don't have any understanding of how they fit into (in her words) God's creation.
Isn't my friend Grace great?
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Tsuyeiko, Your friend Grace sounds like a wonderful person. I'm glad you know her well enough to talk to her intimately like that.
I would agree with her about that and some of the other things she told you. However, there's one thing Jesus said very specifically: You must be born again. (John 3)
I know you've said that you were a Christian up until age 12, but somehow I would guess that you were a devote church goer only. I, too, went to church regularly until age 14--that is when I accepted Him as Lord and Savior. Only by knowing Jesus can you experience all the abundant life that He has to offer you. I really trully hope you will give Him a chance.
(See there, I didn't say anything about praying for you! *L*)
I would agree with her about that and some of the other things she told you. However, there's one thing Jesus said very specifically: You must be born again. (John 3)
I know you've said that you were a Christian up until age 12, but somehow I would guess that you were a devote church goer only. I, too, went to church regularly until age 14--that is when I accepted Him as Lord and Savior. Only by knowing Jesus can you experience all the abundant life that He has to offer you. I really trully hope you will give Him a chance.
(See there, I didn't say anything about praying for you! *L*)
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Sounds like you have a good friend Tuyoiko ????. Just like your friend never pushes you, neither do I. And God will never do that either. I have said many times that I am not interested in "convincing" someone with what I know. It is not my job. It's God's power. And God is gentle, the way He does is not pushy. Yes, He basically waits for you.
There is a picture which is well known among Christians about Jesus knocking on the door. Jesus is standing out side. The door has no knob. The knob is only in the other side-inside. When I became Christian, I opened the door of my heart. You see, being a true Christian doesn't mean you become a religious person. It is not a simple matter of having Christian belief or theology. It's a relationship with Jesus Christ.
Just like you enjoy the relationship with Grace, I do enjoy the relationship with the Lord. He teaches me kinds of things on a daily basis. Often, it surprises me how little I knew on the seemingly so obvious and simple things I used to think.
As for the experience of God, I don't mean something "big" and supernaturally-miracles, no not always. As I grew spiritually, I being to see little miracles of God and experience the wonder of God from, for example, the nature, and people around me. On this thread, I like to talk "all" kinds of spiritual experiences with the Lord, small and big ones.
As for being prayed, you certainly do not have to worry unless the person is actually cursing you. Even though you don't know me, isn't it nice to know that I wish your best, for example? I would appriciate the person's care and support even just to know that. If I pray, for example, that you will be blessed, do you get offended? How about being said, "God bless you"? That can be a form of prayer in a way. I am not offering anything here, by the way. But in any case, unless you strongly feel someone invade your privacy, prayers such as for your health and blessings should not intimidate you. That's my opinion though. So, God bless you Tuyoiko ????.
(if you still don't like to be said, just forget that I am Christian for a moment will you? And pretend that you heard "Have a nice day!" instead. Really, that's what I meant)
There is a picture which is well known among Christians about Jesus knocking on the door. Jesus is standing out side. The door has no knob. The knob is only in the other side-inside. When I became Christian, I opened the door of my heart. You see, being a true Christian doesn't mean you become a religious person. It is not a simple matter of having Christian belief or theology. It's a relationship with Jesus Christ.
Just like you enjoy the relationship with Grace, I do enjoy the relationship with the Lord. He teaches me kinds of things on a daily basis. Often, it surprises me how little I knew on the seemingly so obvious and simple things I used to think.
As for the experience of God, I don't mean something "big" and supernaturally-miracles, no not always. As I grew spiritually, I being to see little miracles of God and experience the wonder of God from, for example, the nature, and people around me. On this thread, I like to talk "all" kinds of spiritual experiences with the Lord, small and big ones.
As for being prayed, you certainly do not have to worry unless the person is actually cursing you. Even though you don't know me, isn't it nice to know that I wish your best, for example? I would appriciate the person's care and support even just to know that. If I pray, for example, that you will be blessed, do you get offended? How about being said, "God bless you"? That can be a form of prayer in a way. I am not offering anything here, by the way. But in any case, unless you strongly feel someone invade your privacy, prayers such as for your health and blessings should not intimidate you. That's my opinion though. So, God bless you Tuyoiko ????.
(if you still don't like to be said, just forget that I am Christian for a moment will you? And pretend that you heard "Have a nice day!" instead. Really, that's what I meant)
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Hi Pararousia :wave: I think I was a true Christian back then. I knew Jesus, and I still know him now. It's just that then I accepted him as the son of god and thought he was divine. Now I see him as a prophet, in a secular sense - he had something important to teach us, and if we listen to what he said we can be better people - just as we should listen to Socrates, Gandhi and the Dalai Lama.Pararousia said:
Hi Study :wave: That doesn't offend me. It's just the idea of someone praying for me to 'see the light' that offends me. I've worked hard for the understanding I have of the world, and I'm still working hard but it's rewarding. This is what I want, it's right for me, and I don't want anyone telling me they know better what I need. I understand that my way wouldn't work for you, and you are happy as you are - you should understand that your way will never work for me.studyonline said:
(I mean a generic 'you', not you personally Study!
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lol I have known that God is a God of humor. Sometimes, what He does makes me smile.
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The love of God
I would like to continue on the love of God. In Greek, it is agape, unconditional love. While there are so many "good" religious teachings out there, the Bible's, God's main teaching to the humanity is the love of God. That's the core of the theme in Christian belief.
"Master, which is the great commandment in the law?" -Matt 22:36- Any religious person has this question. It is a typical response by a human being to organize the law, set formulas for it, or document it in order logically, intellectually. In the end, the law is a matter of written words that somehow lost its main purpose and meaning.
There was this incident sometime ago in Japan. I think it was at a high school. There was this student running to make it before the gate closes in the morning. The gate is closed at certain time, so that anyone comes after is late. It's just a school regulation. Now this student was on time one morning. On time to be hit by the gate that was closed by a school teacher at this certain time. The student died. The media made the news huge the next day. Was the regulation supposed to encourage students not to be late? The regulation killed the boy ironically.
"Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment.
And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself." Jesus' teaching on the commandment-the law-was to love. It was not just a matter of doing this and that. It was not all about "don't do this or that," either.
The law comes with judgement. By punishing the violator, the law maintains its authority over the person. But the love of God is full of His mercy, giving anyone a chance to recover and restore things we lost in the past. Make no mistake. I do not mean God never judges. He does, and He is the Judge of all. But His love comes before His law. Or His ultimate law is His love; thus His judgement does not exclude His mercy.
I can keep going on defining what love is in the Bible. But love is not just a word. It is deeper than that. It is beyond our comprehension with our brains. It can not be limited or measured by our intellect either.
It was the best experience I had in my Christian life. Although I had experienced the love of God before many times, that one night was very special, life-changing revelation to me. I was in the car, driving to this church for the special evening service. I had a great feeling in my spirit already and knew "something" would happen. And it did thought it was more personal, just for me.
It was such a wonderful atmosphere with great worship songs. The worship team was doing such an amazing job. I threw myself into the atmosphere and was enjoying the presence of God. We kept singing for 1 hour at least. I began to feel the presence of God heavily. I had never felt that intensity before. I could not stand any more as if my physicaly body couldn't handle it. I also felt the love of God in such an amazing way. It wasn't just a good feeling or happiness inside of me. We all know love is good. Hard to describe it but at least we know in our head it is something good. But when I felt the love of God that night, I felt so different. I never knew the intensity of His love. I could not believe how deeply He loved me. I really felt like fire, burning, strong and passionate. It really didn't give me any second to breath in. Jesus' love was too strong for me. All I could do is to cry and lie down on the floor.
It was too strong for me to even say, "Thank you, Jesus." I didn't say, "Praise God", either. I was moved, but the expression of appriciation never came out of my mouth. Instead, I told him, "Don't go, Lord." It may sound strange if you analize all the situation I shared so far, but that was the very thing I said to Him. I actually felt little fear. Not because His love was something threatening of course. But I felt it because I hated the love I was feeling might go away. I thought I would be dead when His love He showed me leaves me. So I was afraid and told Him not to go. That fire of His love grabed my soul and spirit. I wanted to feel His love as long as possible. It touched me so bad that all I could do is cry on the floor. I almost don't remember what happened that night afterwards. I so long for His love in the way He showed me. John 15:13 "Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends."
I would like to continue on the love of God. In Greek, it is agape, unconditional love. While there are so many "good" religious teachings out there, the Bible's, God's main teaching to the humanity is the love of God. That's the core of the theme in Christian belief.
"Master, which is the great commandment in the law?" -Matt 22:36- Any religious person has this question. It is a typical response by a human being to organize the law, set formulas for it, or document it in order logically, intellectually. In the end, the law is a matter of written words that somehow lost its main purpose and meaning.
There was this incident sometime ago in Japan. I think it was at a high school. There was this student running to make it before the gate closes in the morning. The gate is closed at certain time, so that anyone comes after is late. It's just a school regulation. Now this student was on time one morning. On time to be hit by the gate that was closed by a school teacher at this certain time. The student died. The media made the news huge the next day. Was the regulation supposed to encourage students not to be late? The regulation killed the boy ironically.
"Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment.
And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself." Jesus' teaching on the commandment-the law-was to love. It was not just a matter of doing this and that. It was not all about "don't do this or that," either.
The law comes with judgement. By punishing the violator, the law maintains its authority over the person. But the love of God is full of His mercy, giving anyone a chance to recover and restore things we lost in the past. Make no mistake. I do not mean God never judges. He does, and He is the Judge of all. But His love comes before His law. Or His ultimate law is His love; thus His judgement does not exclude His mercy.
I can keep going on defining what love is in the Bible. But love is not just a word. It is deeper than that. It is beyond our comprehension with our brains. It can not be limited or measured by our intellect either.
It was the best experience I had in my Christian life. Although I had experienced the love of God before many times, that one night was very special, life-changing revelation to me. I was in the car, driving to this church for the special evening service. I had a great feeling in my spirit already and knew "something" would happen. And it did thought it was more personal, just for me.
It was such a wonderful atmosphere with great worship songs. The worship team was doing such an amazing job. I threw myself into the atmosphere and was enjoying the presence of God. We kept singing for 1 hour at least. I began to feel the presence of God heavily. I had never felt that intensity before. I could not stand any more as if my physicaly body couldn't handle it. I also felt the love of God in such an amazing way. It wasn't just a good feeling or happiness inside of me. We all know love is good. Hard to describe it but at least we know in our head it is something good. But when I felt the love of God that night, I felt so different. I never knew the intensity of His love. I could not believe how deeply He loved me. I really felt like fire, burning, strong and passionate. It really didn't give me any second to breath in. Jesus' love was too strong for me. All I could do is to cry and lie down on the floor.
It was too strong for me to even say, "Thank you, Jesus." I didn't say, "Praise God", either. I was moved, but the expression of appriciation never came out of my mouth. Instead, I told him, "Don't go, Lord." It may sound strange if you analize all the situation I shared so far, but that was the very thing I said to Him. I actually felt little fear. Not because His love was something threatening of course. But I felt it because I hated the love I was feeling might go away. I thought I would be dead when His love He showed me leaves me. So I was afraid and told Him not to go. That fire of His love grabed my soul and spirit. I wanted to feel His love as long as possible. It touched me so bad that all I could do is cry on the floor. I almost don't remember what happened that night afterwards. I so long for His love in the way He showed me. John 15:13 "Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends."
sabro, I agree it is best to do your best to restrict access to those sites, but it is a hard thing to control. So do your best, but don't be discouraged if you are not always successful.
Proverbs 22 says: "Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it."
Sometimes during that period between "child" and "old" there are some trying times.
Proverbs 22 says: "Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it."
Sometimes during that period between "child" and "old" there are some trying times.
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The Naturally Supernatural
Believing in God is not a matter of acknowledging the belief system. It is not all about the theology either. It is also beyond the agreement to religious teachings or theories. It is more than knowing God in the head as well.
Born again Christians should know that accepting Jesus in their hearts is what's all about-having a relationship with God, and certainly it is not having a relationship with a religion.
While non-believers simply can not understand this, to Christians, it is such a basic way of life. It is something so natural. They do not struggle to believe what the Bible says any more. It becomes natural for them to believe and trust in God who operates in the natural round and supernatural realm.
The relationship with God is a daily life. We walk with the Lord. We talk to Him daily. The path that God directs us has full of blessings. In that path, we often find how awesome and mighty He is. The more we walk with Him, the more He shows His glory in our lives. And we experience God's love and power as we follow Him.
There was this miracle happened at the gate of the temple. Seeing the healing in front of them, people were amazed and looked at Peter. "And when Peter saw it, he answered unto the people, Ye men of Israel, why marvel ye at this? or why look ye so earnestly on us, as though by our own power or holiness we had made this man to walk?" Acts 3:12
Peter is basically saying here that they did not have to be surprised at what they saw even though that the supernatural performance just occured right then. To Peter, it was more natural because he was with the Lord. Supernatural God was always with Peter. Seeing God's power was no longer some kind of mystic and odd experience to him. It was the learned experience through the relationship with God. And anyone who has the relationship with Jesus can see the glory of God everyday! We may not notice all the things that God does while we are baby Christians, but as we grow, our spiritual sensitivity becomes sharper. I can appriciate what God does to me in more areas of my life than before. I could not see or comprehend those little things that God showed me when I was young in spirit, but I recognize them now.
To a spiritually sensitive person, even a tiny event that seems not impressive at all can be meaningful, and he can see the glory of God in it. David in Psalms said this. "The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork." 19:1 He could see the supernatural power of God in the nature. Of course not all Christians are spiritually very sensitive. We all learn and grow. Some have strong faith, and others just began to walk with it. But as long as we walk with Him, it's just a matter of time before we realize the power of God in every aspect of our lives.
I used to live in this small house which belonged to the people I got to know of 9 years ago. I shared with two roomates, both Christians. We often shared things that God did for us. Marisa would tell me that God told her to go to a certain shoe store. There, she found the shoes she wanted with a low price. I still remember how happy she was. Gerald would tell me how the Lord used him to tell other people what would come in their lives prophetically.
This happened to me one day. On that day, I was to lend my car to someone, promised to meet at certain time. I was late to get home. I got out of my car and dashed to the house. I saw a vision before I tried to open the door. I saw a paper that says they are waiting on me. It's a note. I thought it would be on the kitchen counter, but it wasn't there. I went to my room and saw the note on my door. I knew that they didn't leave me but were waiting on me even though I was late. God let me know that.
Can God really do those things? He can and does. God does both small and big things to help us. But the important thing is that He cares for us, for every small thing we do. "Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths." Prov 3:5-6 These key verses are to see the glory of God everyday. Let Him lead you. That's the only way to experience the supernatural naturally.
Believing in God is not a matter of acknowledging the belief system. It is not all about the theology either. It is also beyond the agreement to religious teachings or theories. It is more than knowing God in the head as well.
Born again Christians should know that accepting Jesus in their hearts is what's all about-having a relationship with God, and certainly it is not having a relationship with a religion.
While non-believers simply can not understand this, to Christians, it is such a basic way of life. It is something so natural. They do not struggle to believe what the Bible says any more. It becomes natural for them to believe and trust in God who operates in the natural round and supernatural realm.
The relationship with God is a daily life. We walk with the Lord. We talk to Him daily. The path that God directs us has full of blessings. In that path, we often find how awesome and mighty He is. The more we walk with Him, the more He shows His glory in our lives. And we experience God's love and power as we follow Him.
There was this miracle happened at the gate of the temple. Seeing the healing in front of them, people were amazed and looked at Peter. "And when Peter saw it, he answered unto the people, Ye men of Israel, why marvel ye at this? or why look ye so earnestly on us, as though by our own power or holiness we had made this man to walk?" Acts 3:12
Peter is basically saying here that they did not have to be surprised at what they saw even though that the supernatural performance just occured right then. To Peter, it was more natural because he was with the Lord. Supernatural God was always with Peter. Seeing God's power was no longer some kind of mystic and odd experience to him. It was the learned experience through the relationship with God. And anyone who has the relationship with Jesus can see the glory of God everyday! We may not notice all the things that God does while we are baby Christians, but as we grow, our spiritual sensitivity becomes sharper. I can appriciate what God does to me in more areas of my life than before. I could not see or comprehend those little things that God showed me when I was young in spirit, but I recognize them now.
To a spiritually sensitive person, even a tiny event that seems not impressive at all can be meaningful, and he can see the glory of God in it. David in Psalms said this. "The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork." 19:1 He could see the supernatural power of God in the nature. Of course not all Christians are spiritually very sensitive. We all learn and grow. Some have strong faith, and others just began to walk with it. But as long as we walk with Him, it's just a matter of time before we realize the power of God in every aspect of our lives.
I used to live in this small house which belonged to the people I got to know of 9 years ago. I shared with two roomates, both Christians. We often shared things that God did for us. Marisa would tell me that God told her to go to a certain shoe store. There, she found the shoes she wanted with a low price. I still remember how happy she was. Gerald would tell me how the Lord used him to tell other people what would come in their lives prophetically.
This happened to me one day. On that day, I was to lend my car to someone, promised to meet at certain time. I was late to get home. I got out of my car and dashed to the house. I saw a vision before I tried to open the door. I saw a paper that says they are waiting on me. It's a note. I thought it would be on the kitchen counter, but it wasn't there. I went to my room and saw the note on my door. I knew that they didn't leave me but were waiting on me even though I was late. God let me know that.
Can God really do those things? He can and does. God does both small and big things to help us. But the important thing is that He cares for us, for every small thing we do. "Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths." Prov 3:5-6 These key verses are to see the glory of God everyday. Let Him lead you. That's the only way to experience the supernatural naturally.
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Amen. Walking with Jesus is waking in the supernatural. The journey of experiencing God's love and power is full of glory. Any mystic vague idea and imagination on the things of spirit we can think of will be blown away once God steps in our lives. That's how the supernatural becomes natural.
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Interesting thing is that the supernatural power of God is in an everyday life. The nature is operated by this supernatural force. We often do not think how and why those things are done in the way they are. We take the natural law as it is, saying "it just happens". But until God opens our eyes, we can not see how dependent the nature is on the supernatural.
The supernatural is even in the nature. And in any natural law, there is supernatural power of God.
"Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin: And yet I say unto you, That even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these."
The supernatural is even in the nature. And in any natural law, there is supernatural power of God.
"Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin: And yet I say unto you, That even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these."
Shirahime
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well,,I have my stories to tell,,,,
It's about my mom,, when she was a girl, she had a boyfriend named Irfan,,,
he's a military guy,,if I don't mistaken.
Well, I will straight to the point. My grandma doesn't allow her to marry Irfan for unknown reason. So my mom left Irfan and married my father,,,, :blush:
The miracle is,
my mom doesn't married with Irfan. Because now in Indonesia, Irfan is become the headline news of all TV...and not for good cause.
He killed his own wife BRUTALLY and likes to hurt his child!!
It's happened when he and his wife wanted to divorce.
So, actually Irfan has a short-temperamental and maybe,,,crazy.
If only my mom married with him,,,I really don't know what will happen to her,,, :relief: :relief:
I was shocked when my mom tell me that Irfan was her ex-boyfriend,,,
What d heck,,,
It's about my mom,, when she was a girl, she had a boyfriend named Irfan,,,
he's a military guy,,if I don't mistaken.
Well, I will straight to the point. My grandma doesn't allow her to marry Irfan for unknown reason. So my mom left Irfan and married my father,,,, :blush:
The miracle is,
my mom doesn't married with Irfan. Because now in Indonesia, Irfan is become the headline news of all TV...and not for good cause.
He killed his own wife BRUTALLY and likes to hurt his child!!
It's happened when he and his wife wanted to divorce.
So, actually Irfan has a short-temperamental and maybe,,,crazy.
If only my mom married with him,,,I really don't know what will happen to her,,, :relief: :relief:
I was shocked when my mom tell me that Irfan was her ex-boyfriend,,,
What d heck,,,
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Thanks for sharing your story. I am glad your mother chose the right path. The outcome is always based on our choice. We only reap what we sow. We can only see the glory of God when we sow a good seed. Otherwise, we will see all kinds of bad things come on our lives.
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From the book "All Things for Good" by Thomas Watson come these 14 Tests of Love for God:
1. The tendency of the mind to think about God
2. A strong desire for communion with God
3. Grief over sin
4. A courageous spirit in serving Christ
5. A sensitive spirit to things that dishonor God
6. Hatred of sin
7. A willingness to put to death personal desires
8. A healthy fear of dishonoring God
9. Love what God loves
10. Entertain good thoughts of God in difficulty
11. Obedience to God even when costly
12. Effort to make God "look good" to others
13. To long for Christ's appearing
14. Stoop to do the most ordinary tasks
1. The tendency of the mind to think about God
2. A strong desire for communion with God
3. Grief over sin
4. A courageous spirit in serving Christ
5. A sensitive spirit to things that dishonor God
6. Hatred of sin
7. A willingness to put to death personal desires
8. A healthy fear of dishonoring God
9. Love what God loves
10. Entertain good thoughts of God in difficulty
11. Obedience to God even when costly
12. Effort to make God "look good" to others
13. To long for Christ's appearing
14. Stoop to do the most ordinary tasks
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I like the list you posted there. I don't know if those are in order, but I like the first one to be listed as #1. It reminded me of a book I know of, "The practice of the presence of God" by Brother Lawrence. Anyone has read the book? Quite an awesome one.
Pararousia
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In Christ Alone
In Christ alone my hope is found
He is my light, my strength, my song
This Cornerstone, this solid ground
Firm through the fiercest drought and storm
What heights of love, what depths of peace
When fears are stilled, when strivings cease
My Comforter, my All in All
Here in the love of Christ I stand
In Christ alone, who took on flesh
Fullness of God in helpless babe
This gift of love and righteousness
Scorned by the ones He came to save
'Till on that cross as Jesus died
The wrath of God was satisfied
For every sin on Him was laid
Here in the death of Christ I live
There in the ground His body lay
Light of the world by darkness slain
Then bursting forth in glorious Day
Up from the grave He rose again
And as He stands in victory
Sin's curse has lost it's grip on me
For I am His and He is mine
Brought with the precious blood of Christ
No guilt in life, no fear in death
This is the power of Christ in me
From life's first cry to final breath
Jesus commands my destiny
No power of hell, no scheme of man
Can ever pluck me from His hand
'Till He returns or calls me home
Here in the power of Christ I'll stand
He is my light, my strength, my song
This Cornerstone, this solid ground
Firm through the fiercest drought and storm
What heights of love, what depths of peace
When fears are stilled, when strivings cease
My Comforter, my All in All
Here in the love of Christ I stand
In Christ alone, who took on flesh
Fullness of God in helpless babe
This gift of love and righteousness
Scorned by the ones He came to save
'Till on that cross as Jesus died
The wrath of God was satisfied
For every sin on Him was laid
Here in the death of Christ I live
There in the ground His body lay
Light of the world by darkness slain
Then bursting forth in glorious Day
Up from the grave He rose again
And as He stands in victory
Sin's curse has lost it's grip on me
For I am His and He is mine
Brought with the precious blood of Christ
No guilt in life, no fear in death
This is the power of Christ in me
From life's first cry to final breath
Jesus commands my destiny
No power of hell, no scheme of man
Can ever pluck me from His hand
'Till He returns or calls me home
Here in the power of Christ I'll stand