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Salento · Feb 15, 2021

toteu said:
I do not know. What is that?

Native American Tribes, ... I’m in their Ancestral Land, and that’s where my IP address is from.

Palermo Trapani · Feb 15, 2021

Salento said:
@PT
I’m sure they are as our results are not that different.
But, I don’t know what you ran to get those results

Salento: I ran K13 ancient with just the samples from Amorim et al 2018 only, no other ancient samples, against my K13 coordinates on vahadou genetics website. I think yours and mine will be very, very, similar to each other.

Cheers, PT

Salento · Feb 15, 2021

toteu said:
rEALY? LOL... If this is the case, it is CONFIRMED that they are wrong again.

They're not very wrong, though they could upgrade their calculator,
... the site is Entertaining and it's upgraded often.

Palermo Trapani · Feb 15, 2021

Salento: Here is the same thing I did using K13 for Dodecad 12b. Once again only the Szolad and Collegno samples from Amorim et al 2018 and running the Dodecad ancient coordinates for those samples against my own Dodecad K12 coordinates. Single Distance results and and Model using 0.25X. So Eurogenes K13 and Dodecad K12 are in my view corroborating each other suggesting to me the results from MyTrueAncestry are accurate. And for the record, my IP address is in the USA, there is no way in Hell (that is not for you Salento) that Mytrueancestry would know that 100% of my recent ancestry comes from Sicily.

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[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]PalermoTrapani[/TH]
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[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #2DFF00, align: right"]4.40341913[/TD]
[TD]Szolad40[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #34FF00, align: right"]5.08341421[/TD]
[TD]Collegno121[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #5DFF00, align: right"]9.08190509[/TD]
[TD]Collegno25[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #5FFF00, align: right"]9.27144541[/TD]
[TD]Collegno110[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #62FF00, align: right"]9.64398258[/TD]
[TD]Szolad19[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #69FF00, align: right"]10.29666451[/TD]
[TD]Szolad36[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #74FF00, align: right"]11.38594748[/TD]
[TD]Szolad31[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #78FF00, align: right"]11.71591652[/TD]
[TD]Collegno38[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #79FF00, align: right"]11.85023628[/TD]
[TD]Collegno30[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #7CFF00, align: right"]12.16258607[/TD]
[TD]Szolad37[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #83FF00, align: right"]12.80481941[/TD]
[TD]Collegno36[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #8BFF00, align: right"]13.67620927[/TD]
[TD]Szolad43[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #A9FF00, align: right"]16.60320451[/TD]
[TD]Szolad1[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #AAFF00, align: right"]16.70511000[/TD]
[TD]Collegno23[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #BFFF00, align: right"]18.67918628[/TD]
[TD]Szolad35[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #C4FF00, align: right"]19.22978939[/TD]
[TD]Szolad28[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #CBFF00, align: right"]19.88351076[/TD]
[TD]Collegno31[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F0FF00, align: right"]23.56975817[/TD]
[TD]Collegno49[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFA00, align: right"]25.45264230[/TD]
[TD]Szolad27[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFF900, align: right"]25.60952362[/TD]
[TD]Collegno94[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFF100, align: right"]26.41980129[/TD]
[TD]Collegno57[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFEC00, align: right"]26.91039576[/TD]
[TD]Szolad20[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFEB00, align: right"]26.98760827[/TD]
[TD]Szolad45[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFEA00, align: right"]27.09977306[/TD]
[TD]Collegno47[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFDF00, align: right"]28.16766764[/TD]
[TD]Szolad18[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFD600, align: right"]29.02852563[/TD]
[TD]Collegno102[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFD200, align: right"]29.44806445[/TD]
[TD]Collegno53[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFCD00, align: right"]29.91551604[/TD]
[TD]Collegno63[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFC600, align: right"]30.60177609[/TD]
[TD]Szolad6[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFC100, align: right"]31.04979227[/TD]
[TD]Szolad5[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9A00, align: right"]34.94532158[/TD]
[TD]Szolad8[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9000, align: right"]35.86667673[/TD]
[TD]Szolad3[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9000, align: right"]35.87263999[/TD]
[TD]Collegno97[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF8000, align: right"]37.46843605[/TD]
[TD]Szolad23[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF7800, align: right"]38.26121666[/TD]
[TD]Szolad14[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF7100, align: right"]38.92431759[/TD]
[TD]Szolad38[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF6600, align: right"]39.97691709[/TD]
[TD]Szolad42[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF6400, align: right"]40.22599533[/TD]
[TD]Szolad30[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF5F00, align: right"]40.64354684[/TD]
[TD]Szolad24[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF5F00, align: right"]40.69214420[/TD]
[TD]Collegno87[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF5D00, align: right"]40.92286891[/TD]
[TD]Szolad25[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF5B00, align: right"]41.05896613[/TD]
[TD]Szolad12[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF5600, align: right"]41.57516206[/TD]
[TD]Szolad11[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF4D00, align: right"]42.48501265[/TD]
[TD]Szolad15[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF4300, align: right"]43.39091149[/TD]
[TD]Szolad7[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF3F00, align: right"]43.80245427[/TD]
[TD]Collegno83[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF3800, align: right"]44.53613140[/TD]
[TD]Szolad22[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF3500, align: right"]44.82164879[/TD]
[TD]Szolad13[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF3400, align: right"]44.89476473[/TD]
[TD]Collegno84[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF2600, align: right"]46.30290164[/TD]
[TD]Collegno92[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF2100, align: right"]46.72682634[/TD]
[TD]Szolad4[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF1F00, align: right"]46.92842848[/TD]
[TD]Collegno145[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF1C00, align: right"]47.29921987[/TD]
[TD]Collegno93[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF1900, align: right"]47.55465803[/TD]
[TD]Collegno146[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF1100, align: right"]48.35687025[/TD]
[TD]Szolad41[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0C00, align: right"]48.83019250[/TD]
[TD]Collegno151[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0200, align: right"]49.84861583[/TD]
[TD]Szolad9[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0000, align: right"]49.95679333[/TD]
[TD]Szolad16[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF000E, align: right"]51.33042957[/TD]
[TD]Szolad2

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[TH="class: singleheader, colspan: 2, align: left"]Target: PalermoTrapani
Distance: 0.9385% / 0.93852437 | ADC: 0.25x RC

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[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]57.0[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]Collegno121[/TD]

[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]16.2[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]Szolad19[/TD]

[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]13.4[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]Szolad35[/TD]

[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]13.0[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]Collegno30[/TD]

[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]0.4[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]Szolad37[/TD]

Salento · Feb 15, 2021

SZ/CL - EU_K13 ... from top SZ40 to SZ19
... they’re not close,
... gradient 0/100

I don’t think they’re Mohegans ~_^

Palermo Trapani · Feb 15, 2021

Salento: I think that is 5.71, which is not bad. Those are your top 12, I think mine ranged from 2.9 to 16 on Eurogenes and 4.4 to 13.6 on Dodecad. I don't know how I am that close to SZ40, it is 4.4 in Dodecad. I think you have more Deep Dive matches with these samples than I do on My True Ancestry, I think you get 5, I have 3, so I think our results are in fact similar. Here are my My True Ancestry Deep Dives for CL36, CL38 and SZ32

So I agree they aint Mohegans

!!

Salento · Feb 15, 2021

Collegno “Ancient Relatives” - deep dive:
(... Szolad above, Posts 3502 and3504)

Palermo Trapani · Feb 15, 2021

Salento:

We both match up with CL30 and CL36. That is really neat!

Salento · Feb 15, 2021

Palermo Trapani said:
Salento:

We both match up with CL30 and CL36. That is really neat!

... and SZ32

(post #3504)

Duarte · Feb 15, 2021

CL and SZ, EU K13 and Deep Dive MTA

Duarte
CL94_Italy_Langobard_1345_ybp
SZ28_Hungary_Langobard_1442_ybp
CL23_longobard_north_italy
CL57_longobard_north_italy
SZ43_Hungary_Langobard.SG_1431_ybp
CL47_longobard_north_italy
CL36_longobard_north_italy
CL49_longobard_north_italy
SZ45_Hungary_Langobard.SG_1442_ybp
SZ27_Hungary_Langobard_1475_ybp
CL102_longobard_north_italy
SZ32_Hungary_Langobard_1442_ybp
SZ37_Hungary_Langobard_1447_ybp
SZ36_Hungary_Langobard.SG_1442_ybp
SZ18_Hungary_Langobard_1442_ybp
SZ3_Hungary_Langobard.SG_1442_ybp
CL53_longobard_north_italy
CL63_longobard_north_italy
SZ31_Longobard_M_T1a1a_PF5620_U4c2a_60th_century
SZ1_Hungary_BA.SG_3950_ybp
SZ1.SG_longobard_hungary
SZ23_Hungary_Langobard_1442_ybp
SZ19_Hungary_Langobard_1463_ybp
SZ5_Hungary_Langobard.SG_1442_ybp
SZ8_Hungary_Langobard_sister.SZ14_sister.SZ6_1442_ybp
CL87_longobard_north_italy
CL121_longobard_north_italy
SZ24_Hungary_Langobard_1442_ybp
SZ38_Hungary_Langobard_1442_ybp
SZ14_Hungary_Langobard_1442_ybp
SZ42_Hungary_Langobard_1442_ybp
SZ30_Hungary_Langobard_1442_ybp
SZ12_Hungary_Langobard_1442_ybp
SZ40_Hungary_Langobard_1442_ybp
CL83_longobard_north_italy
SZ11_Hungary_Langobard.SG_1442_ybp
CL84_longobard_north_italy
SZ15_Hungary_Langobard.SG_1442_ybp
SZ25_Hungary_Langobard_1442_ybp
SZ7_Hungary_Langobard_1442_ybp
CL31_longobard_north_italy
SZ22_Longobard_
CL92_longobard_north_italy
CL146_Longobard_
SZ9_Hungary_Langobard_1442_ybp
CL93_longobard_north_italy
SZ4_Hungary_Langobard.SG_1442_ybp
SZ41_Hungary_Langobard_1442_ybp
SZ13_Hungary_Langobard_son.SZ24_father.SZ7_brother.SZ22_1469_ybp
SZ16_Hungary_Langobard_1442_ybp
CL145_longobard_north_italy
CL38_longobard_north_italy
CL151_longobard_north_italy
CL30_longobard_north_italy
SZ2_Hungary_Langobard.SG_1442_ybp
CL25_longobard_north_italy

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[TD="bgcolor: #00FF00, align: right"]8.92209617[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #00FF00, align: right"]13.35065167[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #00FF00, align: right"]13.63018709[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #00FF00, align: right"]14.78544216[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #00FF00, align: right"]15.01464618[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #06FF00, align: right"]15.23822496[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #0CFF00, align: right"]15.48007106[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #2EFF00, align: right"]16.87518592[/TD]

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[TD="bgcolor: #48FF00, align: right"]17.95805390[/TD]

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[TD="bgcolor: #58FF00, align: right"]18.61883455[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #6BFF00, align: right"]19.39258106[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #6BFF00, align: right"]19.39273833[/TD]

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[TD="bgcolor: #70FF00, align: right"]19.61064252[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #7EFF00, align: right"]20.20421738[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #86FF00, align: right"]20.50905897[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #93FF00, align: right"]21.06199183[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #AEFF00, align: right"]22.14608092[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #B3FF00, align: right"]22.38920275[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #BCFF00, align: right"]22.73218643[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #BFFF00, align: right"]22.88419105[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #C2FF00, align: right"]22.97635524[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #D8FF00, align: right"]23.90454768[/TD]

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[TD="bgcolor: #E5FF00, align: right"]24.44973006[/TD]

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[TD="bgcolor: #FF000D, align: right"]36.52376487[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #FF002E, align: right"]37.91142704[/TD]

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Duarte · Feb 15, 2021

Salento said:
... and SZ32 (post #3504)

Hi Salento:

The guy below seems to be your ancestral yDNA cousin:

torzio · Feb 15, 2021

Duarte said:
Hi Salento:

The guy below seems to be your ancestral yDNA cousin:

he is actually

Collegno ( 1350 yBP - Early Medieval ) Longobard Period

CL23 ( 1310 -1380 yBP )
Phase: I
Y-DNA: T1a2b1a1-CTS6071 (x Y21207, CTS7303)

.........................................................

.

SZ36 is the other branch of T ..........T1a1 branch

[h=3]Szólád ( Early Medieval ) Lombard Period[/h]

SZ36
Y-DNA: T1a1a1a1a2b2-PF7275
mtDNA: U4c2a

Palermo Trapani · Feb 15, 2021

Salento said:
... and SZ32 (post #3504)

Man it was late when I was posting, yep good ole pasta and pizza lover SZ32! I will throw in some cannoli and arancini. So in fact, you match up with 9 of those samples. That is really interesting. So I think Amorim et al 2018 while not capturing exactly in Italy where these samples that you and I (and others) share Deep Dive matches, I think they are capturing Italian genetic affinity. But 9 of those samples that you get Deep Dive matches, really cool.

Palermo Trapani · Feb 15, 2021

Duarte: Regards to your post #3517, I think that is kind of consistent with what we have seen with lots of these recent papers. There is genetic affinity with folks from Iberia and Southern France with NW Italy, which is where the Collegno site was. As you and Salento I am sure recall and know without me having to tell you, the Antonio et al 2019 paper documented 8 of those Iron Age Roman samples clustered with Northern Italians to Southern France to Spain, etc. You have 6 Deep dives, 4 of them from the Collegno site. Interesting results!

Duarte · Feb 15, 2021

Palermo Trapani said:
Duarte: Regards to your post #3517, I think that is kind of consistent with what we have seen with lots of these recent papers. There is genetic affinity with folks from Iberia and Southern France with NW Italy, which is where the Collegno site was. As you and Salento I am sure recall and know without me having to tell you, the Antonio et al 2019 paper documented 8 of those Iron Age Roman samples clustered with Northern Italians to Southern France to Spain, etc. You have 6 Deep dives, 4 of them from the Collegno site. Interesting results!

Hi PTrapani,
Thank you and cheers

Salento · Feb 15, 2021

Duarte said:
Hi Salento:

The guy below seems to be your ancestral yDNA cousin:

Thanks Duarte, vale

... Você também é parente do Primo de Collegno.
He's your cousin too

@PT ... leave the Arancini, take the Cannoli

Duarte · Feb 15, 2021

Salento said:
Thanks Duarte, vale
... Você também é parente do Primo de Collegno.
He's your cousin too

Thank you by Portuguese

Palermo Trapani · Feb 15, 2021

Salento said:
Thanks Duarte, vale
... Você também é parente do Primo de Collegno.
He's your cousin too

@PT ... leave the Arancini, take the Cannoli

HA!, your reference is definitely one of the great lines in American Cinema.

Salento · Feb 18, 2021

Chroma 20 Analysis

20a :

20b :

20c :

Salento · Feb 18, 2021

23v4

Chome 20a :

20b :

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