Paranormal Research Wins Nobel Prize!
bossel said:
If you would read some scientific articles about neuroscience once in a while (instead of "paranormal literature") you'd know.
This may be out of context, but you are correct. I could (and do) read quite a few scientific articles on all subjects, but they are just telling me what they already know and have "proved" and want me to believe hook, line, and sinker without question. If most people did that we would still be back in the dark ages where the "scientific" and religious thinking of the day was that the earth is flat, the sun revolves around the earth, god created the earth and humans in 7 days, that the earth is only 6,000 or so years old, and anyone who washes their hands before surgery is 'mad'. And anyone who thought otherwise or questioned current beliefs could be arrested, ostracized, and/or burned at the stake.
It's paranormal literature from some pretty brave doctors and scientists that choose to live "outside the box", so to speak, of conventional wisdom, beliefs, and thinkings that give us the advancements in science, medicine and technology we have today. They choose to stick by their findings even though they may be ostracized by their peers for questioning and going beyond current thinking. And that's what I choose to mostly read if there are facts and research to back up their claims.
Case in point: Back in the 80's a couple of scientists from Australia (Drs. Barry J. Marshall and J. Robin Warren proved that the majority of ulcers were caused by bacteria in the stomach, not by stress or spicy foods as the medical establishment so
'firmly' stated was the truth and fact. For years their findings were disdained and ignored, by the AMA, JAMA, and doctors and hospitals around the world and they were laughed at and ridiculed. Much like I am for my beliefs which are mostly based on documented fact. Not until the mid to late 1990's did the medical establishment around the world have to eat their words and claim that they were right in that most peptic ulcers, among others, could be quickly cured by a simple antibiotic. No more need for the endless consumption of antacids, bland foods, and milk and constant visits to the doctor for prescriptions. They finally received the Nobel Prize in medicine this year for their findings.
When I read about this and read their research in the late 80's, I mentioned it to everybody and I was looked at with a raised eyebrow, much like the Mr. Spock in your avatar. No one believed me, not even my best friend who was a doctor! "Impossible", he said. "We know what causes ulcers and it is not bacteria." When my mother came down with stomach ulcers in the mid 90's I mentioned this to her and she finally got a prescription from her doctor for an antibiotic after much prodding on her part. And within a week her ulcer was gone! Her doctor couldn't believe it and he called me to ask where I got my information after my mother told him where she got her info. I mentioned the doctors' names and he did the research and started prescribing antibiotics for stomach ulcers. He became kind of famous in the neighborhood as the doctor who could cure ulcers.
Now had I, and others like me, not read paranormal literature, these doctors' findings may have never been acknowledged. And a simple cure for a common ailment may never have been found.
Now who do you think lost by this acknowledgement and who do you think tried to squash these findings? The billion, yes billion, dollar a year antacid industry and doctors and hospitals who prescribe expensive drugs like tagamint that's who! Because if you aint sick, they make no money. If they can't prescribe a drug they make no money. It WAS NOT in their best (greedy) interest to acknowledge these two doctors' findings as billions would be lost, and were. But because of people like myself who read paranormal literature and the research to back it up and spread the word that findings like this are FINALLY acknowledged and accepted.
As Steve Forbes, Editor-In-Chief of Forbes magazine said last month in an article concerning this nobel prize,
Steve Forbes said:
"The lesson here can never be stressed enough: In business, medicine, and elsewhere, great breakthroughs very often come from outsiders, entrepreneurial folk not part of the establishment, of "mainstream" thought. Railroad companies didn't invent the automobile; traditional filmmakers didn't create videotape or DVD's; telephone companies long underestimated the "creatively destructive" impact of the Internet.....The federal government plays a massive role in funding medical research. Is there a connection between that fact and the frustratingly slow progress in conquering cancer's many variations?....With more money available to be invested in research, inventors and entrepreneurs would be better able to create products and services that challenge established ones-or create whole new catagories altogether.
In concluding, do you honestly believe that the medical and pharmaceutical industry wants to find a cure for cancer with their billions in grants and donations and their fees for the deadly chemo and radiation? Not on your life. It would be detrimental to their best interests as they make approximately US$360,000 from a typical cancer patient!
And also, in keeping with the topic of this thread, does anyone think the religious, medical, governmental institutions will ever acknowledge the fact that the conciousness does survive the death of the physical body with all the documented case histories out there? What would happen to this world if the general population believed and was taught about karma, and do unto others as you would have done unto you, as you are coming back? I think the world would be a safer, better place to live in without war and poverty and disease and such as is so prevelant today.
Another area of research that will probably be acknowledged in the near future: One teaspoon of cayanne pepper mixed with tomato or vegetable juice daily, will begin to uncolg arteries going to the heart. If this is proven true (which will probably happen) there will be no more need for useless bypass surgeries except in the most extreme cases. Now do you think the doctors and hospitals want this info to become common knowledge? Not on your life. When you're sick they make money. When you're healthy they don't. Now which do you think they would prefer?
*ducks blows that are coming his way* :box:
Wich is, btw, now also has it`s implementation in computers of all sorts. Is it always A leads to B in human "logic"?
I agree with what you are saying, and agree that your point of view is valid, I am just saying though that I am not hung up completely on science. You know my religion/ethics/philosophy/cosmology professor likes to draw a line on the black board in each one of his classes that I have taken. He draws the line all the way across the board and on the left he puts "religion", and on the right he puts "science". 
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