MOESAN
Elite member
- Messages
- 6,372
- Reaction score
- 1,615
- Points
- 113
- Location
- Brittany
- Ethnic group
- more celtic
- Y-DNA haplogroup
- R1b - L21/S145*
- mtDNA haplogroup
- H3c
Some out-of-mainstream theories (Gio on Eurogenes) consider Y-R1b was born in western Eurasia (Italy according to him) and even maybe Y-P* could have been born in central-western Eurasia (Bulgary). I'm very reserved about this rarely shared opinion of course. That said, we cannot say too precisely where was born Y-R1* and Y-R* in Asia or eastern Eurasia. If I'm uptodate, we don't even know what road took the ancestors of Y-R* and Y-Q* to reach the northern latitudes of Siberia; East-Asia is'nt a better way than central Eurasia, IMO. All this is speculations todate, waiting for more info.
That said the observation about the birthdate of EDAR mutation is wellcome.
Besides, a lot of Amerindians (from partly ANE ancestors posterior to the first attested times of Y-R* and Y-R1* ANE bearers) show very few typical 'mongoloid' features, spite a mix with genuine East-Asians.
That said the observation about the birthdate of EDAR mutation is wellcome.
Besides, a lot of Amerindians (from partly ANE ancestors posterior to the first attested times of Y-R* and Y-R1* ANE bearers) show very few typical 'mongoloid' features, spite a mix with genuine East-Asians.