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Greeks form a genetic cline between the Balkans and the Eastern Mediterranean

Georgewalley

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Every regions includes different individuals from each region. Used Eurogenes K13 to make an average for every region.

Personal observations:

There's a correlation between the Increase of East Mediterranean and the decrease of Baltic and North Atlantic. The East Mediterranean element seems to be the highest in every region although it gets balanced out by the Baltic and North Atlantic as the Cline moves from the Islands to the Mainland.
What sets apart the Mainland and the Islands are the Baltic and North Atlantic which is significantly lower on the Islands while the West Asian seems to increase significantly along the East Mediterranean.
The West Mediterranean seems to be a basic component which probably means it's an ancient link between every region.
The increase of Baltic probably suggest the Steppe gene-flow brought by Slavic speakers during the Early Middle Ages or even before when the first Slavic speakers appeared in the Balkans, but I think a good part of it is of recent (Vlach, Bulgarian) origin.
The North Atlantic might suggest Germanic or Celtic influence, but it can be also a Neolithic Farmer related component because the Iberian Neolithic farmers already had high amounts of it. (It peaks in modern Southern French and Basques)
Greeks from Macedonia are genetically indistinguishable from non Greek speaking Macedonians and other Minorities which suggest that it's population is Hellenized for the most Part. While Thessaly and Cypriots seem both outliers but show close links to the rest of Greek speaking regions.
Another Groups which worth to be mentioned are the Pontic or Pontic mixed individuals who make a good part of Northern Greece's population Some of them were included in the Macedonian academic samples but I left them out because they were genetic outliers and didn't represent the native genetic of the region to make it more accurate.

Greeks from Macedonia - closest to non Greek Macedonians, followed by Greeks from Thessaly, Bulgarians and Southern Romanians

22.18 East Mediterranean
21.94 Baltic
20.37 North Atlantic
19.28 West Mediterranean
11.90 West Asian
2.38 Red Sea
1%> Trace components

Greeks from Thessaly - Closest to Macedonian Greeks followed by Bulgarians, Romanians and then closest to Central Italians and Southern Greeks

24.53 East Mediterranean
20.64 West Mediterranean
20.56 North Atlantic
16.88 Baltic
11.97 West Asian
3.51 Red Sea
1%> Trace components

Greeks from Peloponnese
- Closest to Italians from Abruzzo, followed by Northern Greeks, Sicilians, Bulgarians and Romanians.

27.08 East Mediterranean
20.35 West Mediterranean
18.28 North Atlantic
15.72 Baltic
13.38 West Asian
3.18 Red Sea
1%> Trace regions

Greeks from Laconia - Similar to Peloponnese with slightly less shift to Balkan populations

26.27 East Mediterranean
20.53 West Mediterranean
19.44 North Atlantic
14.26 West Asian
13.44 Baltic
4.21 Red Sea
0.93 East Asian
1%> Trace regions

Greeks from Crete - Closest to European Jews, Sicilians followed by Peloponnese Greeks, Central Italians and Greek Cypriots

33.60 East Mediterranean
20.59 West Mediterranean
17.95 West Asian
12.36 North Atlantic
8.69 Baltic
4.90 Red Sea
1%> Trace regions

Greeks from South Aegean - Closest to European Jews, Sicilians, Cypriots followed by Mainland Greeks, West Anatolian Turks and Central Italians

35.77 East Mediterranean
21.14 West Mediterranean
17.64 West Asian
11.79 North Atlantic
6.05 Red Sea
5.48 Baltic
0.94 South Asian
1%> Trace regions

Greek Cypriots - Closest to Greek Islanders, Coastal Levantines, Anatolian Turks followed by Italians and Mainland Greeks.

40.53 East Mediterranean
20.61 West Asian
19.36 West Mediterranean
7.65 Red Sea
7.51 North Atlantic
2.40 Baltic
0.60 North East African
1%> Trace regions
 
Every regions includes different individuals from each region. Used Eurogenes K13 to make an average for every region.

Personal observations:

There's a correlation between the Increase of East Mediterranean and the decrease of Baltic and North Atlantic. The East Mediterranean element seems to be the highest in every region although it gets balanced out by the Baltic and North Atlantic as the Cline moves from the Islands to the Mainland.
What sets apart the Mainland and the Islands are the Baltic and North Atlantic which is significantly lower on the Islands while the West Asian seems to increase significantly along the East Mediterranean.
The West Mediterranean seems to be a basic component which probably means it's an ancient link between every region.
The increase of Baltic probably suggest the Steppe gene-flow brought by Slavic speakers during the Early Middle Ages or even before when the first Slavic speakers appeared in the Balkans, but I think a good part of it is of recent (Vlach, Bulgarian) origin.
The North Atlantic might suggest Germanic or Celtic influence, but it can be also a Neolithic Farmer related component because the Iberian Neolithic farmers already had high amounts of it. (It peaks in modern Southern French and Basques)
Greeks from Macedonia are genetically indistinguishable from non Greek speaking Macedonians and other Minorities which suggest that it's population is Hellenized for the most Part. While Thessaly and Cypriots seem both outliers but show close links to the rest of Greek speaking regions.
Another Groups which worth to be mentioned are the Pontic or Pontic mixed individuals who make a good part of Northern Greece's population Some of them were included in the Macedonian academic samples but I left them out because they were genetic outliers and didn't represent the native genetic of the region to make it more accurate.

Greeks from Macedonia - closest to non Greek Macedonians, followed by Greeks from Thessaly, Bulgarians and Southern Romanians

22.18 East Mediterranean
21.94 Baltic
20.37 North Atlantic
19.28 West Mediterranean
11.90 West Asian
2.38 Red Sea
1%> Trace components

Greeks from Thessaly - Closest to Macedonian Greeks followed by Bulgarians, Romanians and then closest to Central Italians and Southern Greeks

24.53 East Mediterranean
20.64 West Mediterranean
20.56 North Atlantic
16.88 Baltic
11.97 West Asian
3.51 Red Sea
1%> Trace components

Greeks from Peloponnese
- Closest to Italians from Abruzzo, followed by Northern Greeks, Sicilians, Bulgarians and Romanians.

27.08 East Mediterranean
20.35 West Mediterranean
18.28 North Atlantic
15.72 Baltic
13.38 West Asian
3.18 Red Sea
1%> Trace regions

Greeks from Laconia - Similar to Peloponnese with slightly less shift to Balkan populations

26.27 East Mediterranean
20.53 West Mediterranean
19.44 North Atlantic
14.26 West Asian
13.44 Baltic
4.21 Red Sea
0.93 East Asian
1%> Trace regions

Greeks from Crete - Closest to European Jews, Sicilians followed by Peloponnese Greeks, Central Italians and Greek Cypriots

33.60 East Mediterranean
20.59 West Mediterranean
17.95 West Asian
12.36 North Atlantic
8.69 Baltic
4.90 Red Sea
1%> Trace regions

Greeks from South Aegean - Closest to European Jews, Sicilians, Cypriots followed by Mainland Greeks, West Anatolian Turks and Central Italians

35.77 East Mediterranean
21.14 West Mediterranean
17.64 West Asian
11.79 North Atlantic
6.05 Red Sea
5.48 Baltic
0.94 South Asian
1%> Trace regions

Greek Cypriots - Closest to Greek Islanders, Coastal Levantines, Anatolian Turks followed by Italians and Mainland Greeks.

40.53 East Mediterranean
20.61 West Asian
19.36 West Mediterranean
7.65 Red Sea
7.51 North Atlantic
2.40 Baltic
0.60 North East African
1%> Trace regions

No one here is interested in the personal observations of some do doubt already banned poster based on data purloined from random people on the internet and then run through "calculators".

Been there, seen that.

What's the matter? Didn't Sikeliot like being mentioned today? Too bad.

You're not going to turn this into theapricity like you're doing at anthrogenica.
 
Did you actually take the time and make up all those numbers?? I mean that's just so funny!

By the way, you're wrong about Greek Cypriots - they are the original Steppe people the ancestors of South Indians.
Sources: Dude, trust me.
 
Is this based on your personal observations?

This is more than personal observations, these are the Eurogenes K13 distances.


[TABLE="width: 0"]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff, align: right"]Greek Macedonia[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]6.1457095[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Greek Peloponnese[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]8.0398771[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Greek_Thessaly[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]8.2804502[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff, align: right"]Central_Greek[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]10.401354[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]East_Sicilian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]11.445137[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Italian_Abruzzo[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]12.144415[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Greek Crete[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]12.983577[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Greek North Aegean[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]13.502875[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]South_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]13.565481[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Ashkenazi[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]14.065022[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Bulgarian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]14.229701[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]West_Sicilian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]14.534935[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Greek South Aegean[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]17.082679[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Romanian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]17.929914[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Tuscan[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]20.079638[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Sephardic_Jewish[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]20.718899[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Italian_Jewish[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]21.992344[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Turkish[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]22.304219[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Serbian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]23.524725[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]North_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]23.562398[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Greek Cyprian[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]


[TABLE="width: 0"]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff, align: right"]Greek Thessaly[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]2.5127641[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff, align: right"]Greek Peloponnese[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]6.1457095[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Greek Macedonia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]8.0667569[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Central_Greek[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]9.5172981[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Italian_Abruzzo[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]10.026509[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]East_Sicilian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]10.407014[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]West_Sicilian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]10.757359[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Bulgarian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]11.678656[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Tuscan[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]12.778374[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Ashkenazi[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]13.342975[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Romanian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]13.624076[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]South_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]15.503445[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Greek Crete[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]16.866299[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]North_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]17.193141[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Greek North Aegean[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]18.011944[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Greek South Aegean[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]18.363274[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Serbian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]20.295477[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Italian_Jewish[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]20.381581[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Sephardic_Jewish[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]25.262623[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Moldavian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]26.422493[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Portuguese[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]


[TABLE="width: 0"]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff, align: right"]Greek Peloponnese[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]2.5127641[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Greek_Thessaly[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]6.1457095[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Greek Macedonia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]8.0667569[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Central_Greek[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]9.5172981[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Italian_Abruzzo[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]9.6853674[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]East_Sicilian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]11.195892[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]West_Sicilian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]11.837013[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Bulgarian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]12.534297[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Ashkenazi[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]13.443689[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]South_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]13.625052[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Tuscan[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]14.623207[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Greek Crete[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]14.703603[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Romanian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]16.194956[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Greek North Aegean[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]17.263012[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Greek South Aegean[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]19.377663[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]North_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]20.056734[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Serbian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]20.412746[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Sephardic_Jewish[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]20.558294[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Italian_Jewish[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]27.063834[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Moldavian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]27.096955[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Greek Cyprian[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]


[TABLE="width: 0"]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]Central Greek[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]3.0881361[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]East_Sicilian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]5.5946032[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]South_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]6.2563875[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Italian_Abruzzo[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]7.1437455[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]West_Sicilian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]7.6535353[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Greek Crete[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]8.0667569[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Greek Peloponnese[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]8.2804502[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Greek Macedonia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]8.7373293[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Ashkenazi[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]8.787492[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Greek_Thessaly[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]8.9926499[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Greek North Aegean[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]9.942106[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Greek South Aegean[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]13.085604[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Sephardic_Jewish[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]13.601688[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Italian_Jewish[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]13.852006[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Tuscan[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]18.848468[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Bulgarian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]19.658788[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Greek Cyprian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]21.071246[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]North_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]21.452477[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Romanian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]22.949991[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Turkish[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]23.219593[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Lebanese_Muslim[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]



[TABLE="width: 0"]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]Greek Crete[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]3.1964625[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Greek South Aegean[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]4.6241953[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Greek North Aegean[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]6.8502081[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]South_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]7.6118705[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]East_Sicilian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]7.6535353[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Central_Greek[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]9.0974245[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Ashkenazi[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]10.491076[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Sephardic_Jewish[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]11.095852[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Italian_Jewish[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]12.144415[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Greek Macedonia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]12.367929[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Greek Cyprian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]12.74341[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Italian_Abruzzo[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]13.162156[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]West_Sicilian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]14.623207[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Greek Peloponnese[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]15.503445[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Greek_Thessaly[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]16.700059[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Lebanese_Muslim[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]18.457716[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Syrian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]19.29529[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Turkish[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]20.869163[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Tuscan[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]20.987865[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Samaritan[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]21.720829[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Jordanian[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]


[TABLE="width: 0"]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]Greek North Aegean[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]4.0153518[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Greek South Aegean[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]4.6241953[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Greek Crete[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]7.9382839[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]South_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]8.9926499[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Central_Greek[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]9.2839122[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]East_Sicilian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]11.249616[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Sephardic_Jewish[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]12.25008[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Ashkenazi[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]12.530686[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Greek Cyprian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]12.709262[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Italian_Abruzzo[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]12.983577[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Greek Macedonia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]13.10069[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Italian_Jewish[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]14.438998[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]West_Sicilian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]15.425115[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Lebanese_Muslim[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]16.149835[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Turkish[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]16.194956[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Greek Peloponnese[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]17.193141[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Greek_Thessaly[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]17.267342[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Syrian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]21.236367[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Samaritan[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]21.462446[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Assyrian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]21.479749[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Jordanian[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]


[TABLE="width: 0"]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]Greek South Aegean[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]3.1964625[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Greek Crete[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]4.0153518[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Greek North Aegean[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]7.951069[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]South_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]9.4980902[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]East_Sicilian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]9.7447796[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Sephardic_Jewish[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]9.9294494[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Greek Cyprian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]9.942106[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Central_Greek[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]10.846836[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Ashkenazi[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]10.962277[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Italian_Jewish[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]14.213154[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Lebanese_Muslim[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]14.534935[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Greek Macedonia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]14.556542[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Italian_Abruzzo[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]14.905727[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]West_Sicilian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]16.003886[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Syrian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]17.263012[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Greek Peloponnese[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]18.011944[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Greek_Thessaly[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]18.113189[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Turkish[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]18.685004[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Samaritan[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]19.733544[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Jordanian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]19.763439[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Lebanese_Christian[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]


[TABLE="width: 0"]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]Greek Cyprian[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]8.2212455[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Lebanese_Muslim[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]9.9294494[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Greek South Aegean[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]10.0754[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Samaritan[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]10.503251[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Lebanese_Christian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]11.031736[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Syrian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]12.367929[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Greek Crete[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]12.530686[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Greek North Aegean[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]12.694763[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Lebanese_Druze[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]13.63385[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Sephardic_Jewish[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]14.32326[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Jordanian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]14.671786[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Italian_Jewish[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]14.699813[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Palestinian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]16.143823[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Kurdish_Jewish[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]16.528267[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Assyrian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]16.849331[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]South_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]17.942261[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Ashkenazi[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]18.820645[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]East_Sicilian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]19.658788[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Central_Greek[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]19.683886[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Turkish[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]22.236604[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Armenian[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
 
Is this based only on your personal observations?

This is more than personal observations, these are the Eurogenes K13 distances for Greek mainlanders.

[TABLE="width: 0"]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff, align: right"]Greek Macedonia
[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]6.1457095[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Greek Peloponnese[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]8.0398771[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Greek_Thessaly[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]8.2804502[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff, align: right"]Central_Greek[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]10.401354[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]East_Sicilian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]11.445137[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Italian_Abruzzo[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]12.144415[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Greek Crete[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]12.983577[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Greek North Aegean[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]13.502875[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]South_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]13.565481[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Ashkenazi[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]14.065022[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Bulgarian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]14.229701[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]West_Sicilian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]14.534935[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Greek South Aegean[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]17.082679[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Romanian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]17.929914[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Tuscan[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]20.079638[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Sephardic_Jewish[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]20.718899[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Italian_Jewish[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]21.992344[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Turkish[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]22.304219[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Serbian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]23.524725[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]North_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]23.562398[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Greek Cyprian[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

[TABLE="width: 0"]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff, align: right"]Greek Thessaly
[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]2.5127641[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff, align: right"]Greek Peloponnese[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]6.1457095[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Greek Macedonia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]8.0667569[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Central_Greek[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]9.5172981[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Italian_Abruzzo[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]10.026509[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]East_Sicilian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]10.407014[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]West_Sicilian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]10.757359[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Bulgarian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]11.678656[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Tuscan[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]12.778374[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Ashkenazi[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]13.342975[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Romanian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]13.624076[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]South_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]15.503445[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Greek Crete[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]16.866299[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]North_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]17.193141[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Greek North Aegean[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]18.011944[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Greek South Aegean[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]18.363274[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Serbian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]20.295477[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Italian_Jewish[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]20.381581[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Sephardic_Jewish[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]25.262623[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Moldavian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]26.422493[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Portuguese[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]


[TABLE="width: 0"]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff, align: right"]Greek Peloponnese
[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]2.5127641[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Greek_Thessaly[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]6.1457095[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Greek Macedonia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]8.0667569[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Central_Greek[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]9.5172981[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Italian_Abruzzo[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]9.6853674[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]East_Sicilian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]11.195892[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]West_Sicilian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]11.837013[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Bulgarian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]12.534297[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Ashkenazi[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]13.443689[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]South_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]13.625052[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Tuscan[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]14.623207[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Greek Crete[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]14.703603[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Romanian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]16.194956[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Greek North Aegean[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]17.263012[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Greek South Aegean[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]19.377663[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]North_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]20.056734[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Serbian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]20.412746[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Sephardic_Jewish[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]20.558294[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Italian_Jewish[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]27.063834[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Moldavian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]27.096955[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Greek Cyprian[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

[TABLE="width: 0"]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]Central Greek
[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]3.0881361[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]East_Sicilian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]5.5946032[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]South_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]6.2563875[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Italian_Abruzzo[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]7.1437455[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]West_Sicilian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]7.6535353[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Greek Crete[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]8.0667569[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Greek Peloponnese[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]8.2804502[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Greek Macedonia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]8.7373293[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Ashkenazi[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]8.787492[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Greek_Thessaly[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]8.9926499[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Greek North Aegean[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]9.942106[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Greek South Aegean[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]13.085604[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Sephardic_Jewish[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]13.601688[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Italian_Jewish[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]13.852006[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Tuscan[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]18.848468[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Bulgarian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]19.658788[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Greek Cyprian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]21.071246[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]North_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]21.452477[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Romanian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]22.949991[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Turkish[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]23.219593[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Lebanese_Muslim[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
 
these are the Eurogenes K13 distances for Greek islanders


[TABLE="width: 0"]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]Greek Crete
[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]3.1964625[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Greek South Aegean[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]4.6241953[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Greek North Aegean[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]6.8502081[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]South_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]7.6118705[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]East_Sicilian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]7.6535353[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Central_Greek[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]9.0974245[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Ashkenazi[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]10.491076[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Sephardic_Jewish[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]11.095852[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Italian_Jewish[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]12.144415[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Greek Macedonia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]12.367929[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Greek Cyprian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]12.74341[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Italian_Abruzzo[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]13.162156[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]West_Sicilian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]14.623207[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Greek Peloponnese[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]15.503445[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Greek_Thessaly[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]16.700059[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Lebanese_Muslim[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]18.457716[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Syrian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]19.29529[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Turkish[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]20.869163[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Tuscan[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]20.987865[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Samaritan[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]21.720829[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Jordanian[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]


[TABLE="width: 0"]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]Greek North Aegean
[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]4.0153518[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Greek South Aegean[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]4.6241953[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Greek Crete[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]7.9382839[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]South_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]8.9926499[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Central_Greek[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]9.2839122[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]East_Sicilian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]11.249616[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Sephardic_Jewish[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]12.25008[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Ashkenazi[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]12.530686[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Greek Cyprian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]12.709262[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Italian_Abruzzo[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]12.983577[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Greek Macedonia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]13.10069[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Italian_Jewish[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]14.438998[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]West_Sicilian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]15.425115[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Lebanese_Muslim[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]16.149835[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Turkish[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]16.194956[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Greek Peloponnese[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]17.193141[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Greek_Thessaly[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]17.267342[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Syrian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]21.236367[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Samaritan[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]21.462446[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Assyrian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]21.479749[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Jordanian[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]


[TABLE="width: 0"]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]Greek South Aegean
[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]3.1964625[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Greek Crete[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]4.0153518[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Greek North Aegean[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]7.951069[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]South_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]9.4980902[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]East_Sicilian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]9.7447796[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Sephardic_Jewish[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]9.9294494[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Greek Cyprian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]9.942106[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Central_Greek[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]10.846836[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Ashkenazi[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]10.962277[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Italian_Jewish[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]14.213154[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Lebanese_Muslim[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]14.534935[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Greek Macedonia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]14.556542[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Italian_Abruzzo[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]14.905727[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]West_Sicilian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]16.003886[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Syrian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]17.263012[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Greek Peloponnese[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]18.011944[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Greek_Thessaly[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]18.113189[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Turkish[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]18.685004[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Samaritan[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]19.733544[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Jordanian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]19.763439[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Lebanese_Christian[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]


[TABLE="width: 0"]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]Greek Cyprian
[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]8.2212455[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Lebanese_Muslim[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]9.9294494[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Greek South Aegean[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]10.0754[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Samaritan[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]10.503251[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Lebanese_Christian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]11.031736[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Syrian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]12.367929[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Greek Crete[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]12.530686[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Greek North Aegean[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]12.694763[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Lebanese_Druze[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]13.63385[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Sephardic_Jewish[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]14.32326[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Jordanian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]14.671786[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Italian_Jewish[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]14.699813[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Palestinian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]16.143823[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Kurdish_Jewish[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]16.528267[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Assyrian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]16.849331[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]South_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]17.942261[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Ashkenazi[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]18.820645[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]East_Sicilian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]19.658788[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Central_Greek[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]19.683886[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Turkish[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]22.236604[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Armenian[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
 
How Greeks have West Med? Is it about Latin influence during Roman Period?
 
I think pretty much every European gets west med
 
I think I speak for everyone: absolutely thrilling! :)

Can't think of a better tool than a Eurogenes calculator.
 
I've seen some useful results using the Eurogenes calculator, but, boy, are those labels misleading and confusing, aren't they? They've led all sorts of people to believe that "West_Med" or "East_Med" means exactly "came right from West Mediterranean" and "came right from the Mediterranean Middle East", and things like that. I think it's much less confusing if the analyses are done relying on more ancient and well defined proxies, especially because the "true" West or East Mediterranean are a huge mix of older admixtures with very clear commonalities and clines with other regions.
 
I've seen some useful results using the Eurogenes calculator, but, boy, are those labels misleading and confusing, aren't they? They've led all sorts of people to believe that "West_Med" or "East_Med" means exactly "came right from West Mediterranean" and "came right from the Mediterranean Middle East", and things like that. I think it's much less confusing if the analyses are done relying on more ancient and well defined proxies, especially because the "true" West or East Mediterranean are a huge mix of older admixtures with very clear commonalities and clines with other regions.

There are worse Eurogenes calculators, although this one is still pretty bad. As for the rest I completely agree. This nomenclature is ridiculous.

Use calculators based on ancient samples if you want to understand the differences between different European groups.

So, yes, I was being sarcastic in post number 9.
 
Cline meaning:
“ A gradation in one or more characteristics within a species or other taxon, especially between different populations”

Taxon (Taxonomy) meaning:
“concerned with the classification of things, especially organisms” :)
 
West Med = ENF European Neolithic Farmer.
Didn't they follow Levant-Turkey-Balkan route? Basicly origin is East Med.

What is actually East Med?

In Eupedia, there is just Med
 
Didn't they follow Levant-Turkey-Balkan route? Basicly origin is East Med.

What is actually East Med?

In Eupedia, there is just Med
Think of it this way...a Greek is basically a Mycenaean with additional Steppe and Middle Eastern like admixture, and in some cases, additional Slavic that came even later. The extra Steppe and middle eastern affected the balkans and Italy as well. This is just speculation and I could be wrong, we need actual samples to really conclude or refute this.
 
West Med (Origin: Early Neolitic Farmer from Levant)


View attachment 10069


This is East Med map.

1-They have invaded West-Med home. Which culture is it? What is the origin.

2-Both were same, but they became different in time. But time is very short of this kind thing.

3-What is main characteristic of East Med? Main differance with West Med - Red Sea and Caucasian?

View attachment 10070
 
Greek from Thessaly KIT: Z829678


Single Population Sharing:

Population (source)

[TD="align: center"] # [/TD]

[TD="align: right"] Distance [/TD]

[TD="width: 40, align: center"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 220"]Greek_Thessaly[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]5.21[/TD]

[TD="width: 40, align: center"]2[/TD]
[TD="width: 220"]Greek[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]8.08[/TD]

[TD="width: 40, align: center"]3[/TD]
[TD="width: 220"]Central_Greek[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]8.35[/TD]

[TD="width: 40, align: center"]4[/TD]
[TD="width: 220"]Ashkenazi[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]8.85[/TD]

[TD="width: 40, align: center"]5[/TD]
[TD="width: 220"]East_Sicilian[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]9.13[/TD]

[TD="width: 40, align: center"]6[/TD]
[TD="width: 220"]Italian_Abruzzo[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]9.56[/TD]

[TD="width: 40, align: center"]7[/TD]
[TD="width: 220"]West_Sicilian[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]10.22[/TD]

[TD="width: 40, align: center"]8[/TD]
[TD="width: 220"]South_Italian[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]10.65[/TD]

[TD="width: 40, align: center"]9[/TD]
[TD="width: 220"]Tuscan[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]10.92[/TD]

[TD="width: 40, align: center"]10[/TD]
[TD="width: 220"]Bulgarian[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]12.35[/TD]

[TD="width: 40, align: center"]11[/TD]
[TD="width: 220"]Italian_Jewish[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]13.44[/TD]

[TD="width: 40, align: center"]12[/TD]
[TD="width: 220"]Romanian[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]13.91[/TD]

[TD="width: 40, align: center"]13[/TD]
[TD="width: 220"]Algerian_Jewish[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]14.96[/TD]

[TD="width: 40, align: center"]14[/TD]
[TD="width: 220"]Sephardic_Jewish[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]15.36[/TD]

[TD="width: 40, align: center"]15[/TD]
[TD="width: 220"]North_Italian[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]15.64[/TD]

[TD="width: 40, align: center"]16[/TD]
[TD="width: 220"]Serbian[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]16.53[/TD]

[TD="width: 40, align: center"]17[/TD]
[TD="width: 220"]Libyan_Jewish[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]18.3[/TD]

[TD="width: 40, align: center"]18[/TD]
[TD="width: 220"]Tunisian_Jewish[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]18.72[/TD]

[TD="width: 40, align: center"]19[/TD]
[TD="width: 220"]Cyprian[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]20.42[/TD]

[TD="width: 40, align: center"]20[/TD]
[TD="width: 220"]Moldavian[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]21.76[/TD]

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[TD="width: 20, align: center"] # [/TD]
[TD="width: 15"] [/TD]
[TD="colspan: 3"] Primary Population (source) [/TD]
[TD="colspan: 3"] Secondary Population (source) [/TD]
[TD="align: right"] Distance [/TD]

[TD="width: 20, align: center"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"] [/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]90.9%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Greek_Thessaly[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: right"]9.1%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Lebanese_Druze[/TD]

[TD="width: 50, align: right"]4.43[/TD]

[TD="width: 20, align: center"]2[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"] [/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]87.7%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Greek_Thessaly[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: right"]12.3%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Libyan_Jewish[/TD]

[TD="width: 50, align: right"]4.58[/TD]

[TD="width: 20, align: center"]3[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"] [/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]94.2%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Greek_Thessaly[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: right"]5.8%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Yemenite_Jewish[/TD]

[TD="width: 50, align: right"]4.61[/TD]

[TD="width: 20, align: center"]4[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"] [/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]84.4%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Greek_Thessaly[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: right"]15.6%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Italian_Jewish[/TD]

[TD="width: 50, align: right"]4.66[/TD]

[TD="width: 20, align: center"]5[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"] [/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]86.5%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Greek_Thessaly[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: right"]13.5%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Algerian_Jewish[/TD]

[TD="width: 50, align: right"]4.71[/TD]

[TD="width: 20, align: center"]6[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"] [/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]92.5%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Greek_Thessaly[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: right"]7.5%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Lebanese_Christian[/TD]

[TD="width: 50, align: right"]4.72[/TD]

[TD="width: 20, align: center"]7[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"] [/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]92.6%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Greek_Thessaly[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: right"]7.4%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Palestinian[/TD]

[TD="width: 50, align: right"]4.75[/TD]

[TD="width: 20, align: center"]8[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"] [/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]92.4%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Greek_Thessaly[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: right"]7.6%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Samaritan[/TD]

[TD="width: 50, align: right"]4.76[/TD]

[TD="width: 20, align: center"]9[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"] [/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]89.9%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Greek_Thessaly[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: right"]10.1%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Tunisian_Jewish[/TD]

[TD="width: 50, align: right"]4.79[/TD]

[TD="width: 20, align: center"]10[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"] [/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]91.5%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Greek_Thessaly[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: right"]8.5%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Cyprian[/TD]

[TD="width: 50, align: right"]4.87[/TD]

[TD="width: 20, align: center"]11[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"] [/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]93.6%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Greek_Thessaly[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: right"]6.4%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Jordanian[/TD]

[TD="width: 50, align: right"]4.9[/TD]

[TD="width: 20, align: center"]12[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"] [/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]89.4%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Greek_Thessaly[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: right"]10.6%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Sephardic_Jewish[/TD]

[TD="width: 50, align: right"]4.91[/TD]

[TD="width: 20, align: center"]13[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"] [/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]94.8%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Greek_Thessaly[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: right"]5.2%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Egyptian[/TD]

[TD="width: 50, align: right"]4.95[/TD]

[TD="width: 20, align: center"]14[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"] [/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]86.4%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Greek_Thessaly[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: right"]13.6%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] South_Italian[/TD]

[TD="width: 50, align: right"]4.99[/TD]

[TD="width: 20, align: center"]15[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"] [/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]94.2%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Greek_Thessaly[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: right"]5.8%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Lebanese_Muslim[/TD]

[TD="width: 50, align: right"]5.01[/TD]

[TD="width: 20, align: center"]16[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"] [/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]86.7%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Greek_Thessaly[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: right"]13.3%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] West_Sicilian[/TD]

[TD="width: 50, align: right"]5.03[/TD]

[TD="width: 20, align: center"]17[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"] [/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]95.6%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Greek_Thessaly[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: right"]4.4%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Kurdish_Jewish[/TD]

[TD="width: 50, align: right"]5.03[/TD]

[TD="width: 20, align: center"]18[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"] [/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]96.8%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Greek_Thessaly[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: right"]3.2%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Saudi[/TD]

[TD="width: 50, align: right"]5.04[/TD]

[TD="width: 20, align: center"]19[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"] [/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]95.8%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Greek_Thessaly[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: right"]4.2%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Bedouin[/TD]

[TD="width: 50, align: right"]5.06[/TD]

[TD="width: 20, align: center"]20[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"] [/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]96%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Greek_Thessaly[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: right"]4%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"] Iranian_Jewish[/TD]

[TD="width: 50, align: right"]5.07[/TD]
Population

[TD="align: center"] # [/TD]

[TD="align: right"] Percent [/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: center"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]East_Med[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]27.32[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: center"]2[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]West_Med[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]16.76[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: center"]3[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]North_Sea[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]15.49[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: center"]4[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]Atlantic[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]11.3[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: center"]5[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]Baltic[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]11.1[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: center"]6[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]West_Asian[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]9.72[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: center"]7[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]Eastern_Euro[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]5.16[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: center"]8[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]Red_Sea[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]2.89[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: center"]9[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]Southeast_Asian[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]0.25[/TD]
 
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