Free and independent Kurdistan is coming soon.

[Goga]

sorry but you are blind again, Notice that,
Turkey
From West is the sourrounded Greece, with Nato ships at Aegean,
from East who? no Strong Iraq, no Strong Armenia,
from South No strong Syrria,
from North? Georgia, who is not so well with Putin,
so Erdogan is playing alone at the arena, having against him, only PKK, a bunch of brave but rebels,
and if negotiations for a new treaty don't start soon, you might see entrance of Turkey there,
and Putin is not so fool, as some want him to be,

There is Persia east of Turkey.

And with all due respect, PKK is stronger than Turkish and Greek army combined. The whole world is fighting against the PKK for 40 years, the whole world is using all kind of weapons (including chemical weapons) and they still can't defeat the PKK.

Never forget that there are 50 million Kurds nowadays. 100 years ago there were just 3 million Kurds, that's why we were fooled...

 

[Goga]

it is clear that the situation has turned around for Assad since the intervention

but what IMO is even more important, they boycotted the objectives of Erdogan to profit from oil trade, eliminate the Kurds and gain influence inside Syria

what will happen now the Russians leave, I don't know

In the 6000 years of history of Kurds and in 1000 years of history of Russians, Mother Russia never fought against the Kurds.

 

[LeBrok]

it is clear that the situation has turned around for Assad since the intervention

Yes, but only partially. There are still rebel groups fighting Assad in the west of the country. IS is ruling in the center, and Kurds are strong in the north. Assad doesn't have strength, money and equipment to get Syria back. What kind of objective was fulfilled, that Putin alluded to in his speech yesterday? Surely, Assad is in much stronger political and military position, but still far away from ruling the whole country.

 

[Goga]

What kind of objective was fulfilled, that Putin alluded to in his speech yesterday?

To secure his bases in Latakia and Tartus. To protect Alevistan.


Mother Russian doesn't need to have much of troops on the ground in Alevistan. They have very advanced missiles (ICBM)!


Russians still have their S-400 anti-aircraft misslies located in Alevistan.

 

[LeBrok]

To secure his bases in Latakia and Tartus. To protect Alevistan.

Nobody denies the fact that Assad position is stronger now, just that he didn't recover most of his country together with rich oilfields.

Mother Russian doesn't need to have much of troops on the ground in Alevistan. They have very advanced missiles (ICBM)!

Against rebels with machine guns?

Russians still have their S-400 anti-aircraft misslies located in Alevistan.

Because rebels and IS will attack with airplanes?

 

[Goga]

Nobody denies the fact that Assad position is stronger now, just that he didn't recover most of his country together with rich oilfields.


Against rebels with machine guns?


Because rebels and IS will attack with airplanes?

Most oil is now in Kurdish hands and in Sunni-land near Iraq border. It's Sunni-land. (Shia) Alevistan has nothing to do with Sunni-land. Putin wants only to protect Alevistan. Syrian as you know is finished, so Putin doesn't want to interfere in Sunni-land and burn his hands in this crazy never ending conflict.


By only protecting Alevistan, Putin acknowledges and supports the breakup of Syria! It's irreversible, you can't fix Syria as it was and Putin knows that. So he is not even trying to fix Syria, he simply doesn't care. Syria as an unified state is finished, it's something of the past.


Russia has still fighter jets in Syria.


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There's also still Shia Hezbollah and powerful Persian troops in Syria who are helping Alevi Arabs.


Alevi Arabs need protection, they are a minority in Syria. If they don't get help Sunni Muslims will destroy them. That's one of the reasons why Alevi Arabs need and will get their own region called Alevistan...

 

[bicicleur 2]

Because rebels and IS will attack with airplanes?

maybe waiting for Turkish plains?

 

[LeBrok]

maybe waiting for Turkish plains?

Maybe. Most likely Turkey and Assad will cooperate against Kurds.

 

[Yetos]

Nobody denies the fact that Assad position is stronger now, just that he didn't recover most of his country together with rich oilfields.


Against rebels with machine guns?


Because rebels and IS will attack with airplanes?

no, Russia nad Turkey are not so good today.

 

[Yetos]

Most oil is now in Kurdish hands and in Sunni-land near Iraq border. It's Sunni-land. (Shia) Alevistan has nothing to do with Sunni-land. Putin wants only to protect Alevistan. Syrian as you know is finished, so Putin doesn't want to interfere in Sunni-land and burn his hands in this crazy never ending conflict.


By only protecting Alevistan, Putin acknowledges and supports the breakup of Syria! It's irreversible, you can't fix Syria as it was and Putin knows that. So he is not even trying to fix Syria, he simply doesn't care. Syria as an unified state is finished, it's something of the past.


Russia has still fighter jets in Syria.


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There's also still Shia Hezbollah and powerful Persian troops in Syria who are helping Alevi Arabs.


Alevi Arabs need protection, they are a minority in Syria. If they don't get help Sunni Muslims will destroy them. That's one of the reasons why Alevi Arabs need and will get their own region called Alevistan...

what about Christians and Maronites?

18% of ex-Syria was Orthodox christians and Catholic Maronites,
who is with them?

 

[Yetos]

Maybe. Most likely Turkey and Assad will cooperate against Kurds.

when you will understand that USA and RUSSIA are cooperating?

Obama knew what Putin was doing there, maybe he wanted it also,

 

[Goga]

what about Christians and Maronites?

18% of ex-Syria was Orthodox christians and Catholic Maronites,
who is with them?

YPG/PYD in Rojava (Western Kurdistan) and Assad in Alevistan protecting Christians in what was once upon a time a Syrian state. Like PKK is helping the Ezdi Kurds in Shengal/Ezdixan in ex-Iraq against the Sunni Muslims, like against the traitor 'Barzani the Islamist' (he is DAESH) and his clan, the eternal enemies of Kurdish race...

 

[LeBrok]

when you will understand that USA and RUSSIA are cooperating?

I'm sorry but it is only happening in your head. US is sending weapons and helping rebels. Russia is bombing and killing them. US wants Assad to go, but Russia is making him stronger. Great cooperation indeed!

 

[Yetos]

I'm sorry but it is only happening in your head. US is sending weapons and helping rebels. Russia is bombing and killing them. US wants Assad to go, but Russia is making him stronger. Great cooperation indeed!

is it that way?
cause I hear the story different, except if with rebels you mean Daesh,

 

[LeBrok]

is it that way?
cause I hear the story different, except if with rebels you mean Daesh,

Russia "saved" Daesh to fight Kurds and coalition.

 

[Yetos]

Russia "saved" Daesh to fight Kurds and coalition.

Do you believe so?

Thank Gods, there are also other sources of information.

who knows, Maybe Russia gave also arms to Daesh, through Iraqi's army, modern warfare, maybe gave them also medicines, and surely fight against Hassad,
yeah, Russia gave S400 to Daesh to protect themshelves from Kurds :useless:,
oh do not forget \russians did not bomb Turkmens and Daesh/Raqa, they bomb Kombane, correct? :grin:

do you know that after the bomb at Ankara Turks are bombing with heavy artillery all Kurdish areas inside Syrria 2 days now??
or do I have to tell you so? why with artillery and not planes? cause Daesh has S400 right?
come on :useless:

Truth hearts, but truth also heals,

 

[Sile]

I'm sorry but it is only happening in your head. US is sending weapons and helping rebels. Russia is bombing and killing them. US wants Assad to go, but Russia is making him stronger. Great cooperation indeed!

When will the USA "wake up" and use their brains and see that from 9/11 to present day ....all terrorist attacks on the west have been done by Arab-Sunni people ...................why support the saudi's and the turks when they backstab the west and fund these arab-sunni terrorists.?

 

[LeBrok]

When will the USA "wake up" and use their brains and see that from 9/11 to present day ....all terrorist attacks on the west have been done by Arab-Sunni people ...................why support the saudi's and the turks when they backstab the west and fund these arab-sunni terrorists.?

What you're saying is exactly what Islamic terrorists want. A great war between Sunni, the only righteous Muslims, and the rest of the world, especially the West and US. Don't you think we should cooperate with moderate Sunnis against Islamic extremists?

 

[bicicleur 2]

What you're saying is exactly what Islamic terrorists want. A great war between Sunni, the only righteous Muslims, and the rest of the world, especially the West and US. Don't you think we should cooperate with moderate Sunnis against Islamic extremists?

Who are the moderate Sunni? Are they fighting the extremist Sunni?

 

[Yetos]

What you're saying is exactly what Islamic terrorists want. A great war between Sunni, the only righteous Muslims, and the rest of the world, especially the West and US. Don't you think we should cooperate with moderate Sunnis against Islamic extremists?

I still believe that your Tv sets say wrong news,
and is not the hamburgers?

WHEN YOU WILL UNDERSTAND THAT USA THROUGH IRAQI ARMY ARMED ISIS!!!!
WHEN YOU UNDERSTAND THAT TURKEY SUPPORTED ISIS WITH CHEMICALS TO PRODUCE BOMB VEHICLES?
WHEN YOU WILL UNDERSTAND THAT ASSAD IS supported BY 35% of ex-SYRRIANS and is not against Kurds, cause at 1990's Otsalan leader of PKK found refuggee at Assad's Syria
WHEN YOU WILL UNDERSTAND THAT SOLIDARITY MAN Lech AT POLAND WAS COOPERATING WITH THE GENERAL?
When you will understand that Christians and Alevi muslims want Assad, only Suni and Turkmen do not want him, cause he did not accept full Sharia law at Syrria,
finally WHEN YOU WILL UNDERSTAND OZALISM ?
when you will understand that after kantafi and Saddam Islam found a new defender? guess who?

and if you believe that I insult again then ok, ban me again

PS
what they put at American hamburgers?

PS2
life is cruel,
Almost same day
12 October 2015, USA airforces drop ammunition and supllies to rabels Russian fleet pass through Dardanelia (Turkey) to go to Syrria,
15 October 2015 Russia steps at Syrria and start bombing
12 december 2015 USA airforces again drop ammunition and supllies to rabels when Russian already there!!!
and 15 November 2015 France enters the game,
WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT?
THEY WERE THERE, FRANCE RUSSIA USA, RUSSIANS AND FRANCAIS COOPERATE AND USED EVEN SAME SHIPS AND BASES TO SLEEP
DID THEY EXCHANGE ONE BULLET? NO
WHY?
CAUSE THEY COOPERATE,
cause if they were true enemies, USA would block Latakeia with 6th fleet, so Russians ships not help Assad, and russia would shoot USA airplanes with S400, so not to help Al-Nusra
but not a nose bleed, only a Russian plane drop by Turks or Turkmens,(not US), then Turks pulled back, waiting Russians to leave so to bomb with artillery the Kurds,
if they were not cooperating, USA and NATO would Drop every Russian plane that passed, cause Turkey is a Nato country, but did not,

PS3
I don't believe that news in America are censored,
I could believe for my country, but not for USA,
so I believe it is the hamburgers

PS4
Islam will not fight West and USA, they conqured it,
at Quran it is written that the world will drop to Allah's hands as done melty juicy fruit,
they only have to reproduce with high rates!!!
Sharia law will come to West civilization though peacefull democratic process/laws voted by people or senators etc etc
one day your wife goes to bed, next day she will have to wear a burka, by law voted at parliament.
That is the future of our kids, if you have any in Greece we say, να τα χαρεις, meaning to be with them at every joy they have

PS5
at least hamburgers do they say news about Boco-haram and Nigeria? or not?