Free and independent Kurdistan is coming soon.

[Yetos]

Yazdanism & Zoroastrianism have common roots and evovled from something Mithraism of the ancient Aryan Mittani & Kassites folks from the Northern Mesopotamia. But I believe that Yazdanism is much older than the Zoroastrianism.

do you know Mithras what means and who came from?

some parts of his worship are still alive today

 

[LABERIA]

Communism is outdated and is an ideology of the nineties century. PKK is an Aryan modern-day organisation that is a combination of many ideologies. It has something from neo-Marxism, neo-nationalism, neo-realism, neo-post-constructionism and even something from neo-liberalism and neo-feminism. It has evolved from all those nineties century ideologies. It has a little bit of everything.

I'm not an atheist. I do believe in Kurdish Xode.

Ocalan, continues to be leader of PKK? I think greek secret services sold him to their turkish colleagues.

 

[Goga]

do you know Mithras what means and who came from?

some parts of his worship are still alive today

Mithra is described in the Zoroastrian Avesta scriptures as, "Mithra of wide pastures, of the thousand ears, and of the myriad eyes,"(Yasna 1:3), "the lofty, and the everlasting...the province ruler,"(Yasna 1:11) "the Yazad (divinity) of the spoken name"(Yasna 3:5), and "the holy,"(Yasna 3:13)


Mithra = SUN or Mithra = Starchild


The Khorda Avesta (Book of Common Prayer) also refer to Mithra in the Litany to the Sun, "Homage to Mithra of wide cattle pastures,"(Khwarshed Niyayesh 5), "Whose word is true, who is of the assembly,Who has a thousand ears, the well-shaped one,Who has ten thousand eyes, the exalted one,Who has wide knowledge, the helpful one,Who sleeps not, the ever wakeful.We sacrifice to Mithra, The lord of all countries,Whom Ahura Mazda created the most glorious, Of the supernatural yazads. So may there come to us for aid, Both Mithra and Ahura, the two exalted ones,"(Khwarshed Niyayesh 6-7), "I shall sacrifice to his mace, well aimed against the skulls of the Daevas,"(Khwarshed Niyayesh 15). Some recent theories have claimed Mithra represents the sun itself, but the Khorda Avesta refers to the sun as a separate entity as well as the moon with which the sun has "the best of friendships," (Khwarshed Niyayesh 15)



Before the advent of Zoroastrianism and was associated with the axis mundi, or the centre of the world. The most common image of Zurvān depicts a winged, lion-headed deity encircled by a serpent, representing the motion of the SUN.

http://www.britannica.com/topic/Zurvan



Also there's a link between Zurvan and the chief solar deity in Hinduism, Surya (Suraya). The term Surya also refers to the Sun, in general

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surya


"Some scholars seek an origin for Zurvanism outside Zoroastrianism, in the worship of an ancient Median or pre-Iranian god. Although in its fatalism and pessimism Zurvanism is basically opposed to true Zoroastrianism, it seems probable that in cult and in a large body of doctrine it made few breaks with orthodoxy. It was in Zurvanite form that Zoroastrianism influenced Mithraism (in which Zurvān was an important deity) and Manichaeism.

http://www.britannica.com/topic/Zurvanism

 

[Goga]

Ocalan, continues to be leader of PKK? I think greek secret services sold him to their turkish colleagues.

Yes, as long he lives APO is our (spiritual) leader. You can see him as a Kurdish philosopher. Yes. PKK doesn’t betray own influential philosophers. But as long he is NOT free, he has no (very limited) power within PKK.


PKK doesn't have just 1 leader, but MANY leaders. It's like our Kurdish Aryan SUN (Mithra) with many sunbeams..

 

[LABERIA]

Turgut Ozal, i think was a kurd. I have heard that turks poisoned him. Is it true?

 

[Goga]

Turgut Ozal, i think was a kurd. I have heard that turks poisoned him. Is it true?

I think he was partly Kurdish. He was killed before he could democratise Turkey. He had a solution to safe Turkey, but at that time Turks still tried to assimilate Kurds. But they failed miserably.
100 years ago there were just 2-3 million Kurds in Northern Kurdistan. And Turks couldn’t even assimilate them. Now there’re 50 million Kurds. Turks are doomed to fail. The best thing for the Turks is a federation between Kurds and Turks. If Turks are not willing to form a federation with Northern Kurdistan, they will be completely defeated. No they will be destroyed.
If Turkey will not start the negotiations with the Kurds, we will see a true Balkanization of Turkey. Parts of Turkey will go to Greece, Georgia, Armenian and Northern Kurdistan will be an independent country. There will be a total GENOCDE of the Turks.

I'm a Kurdish hardliner. I do really want a big war. Big war = shortest way to Great Kurdistan. Personally, I don't like Turks. And I do really hope that Turks continue with what they are doing and that there will be a civil war. I'm 100% sure that Kurds will defeat & destroy Turks during a civil war

According to me the civil war of Turkey, will be the most bloodiest, but also the shortest way to independent Great Kurdistan.

 

[LeBrok]

Is it enough answer? According to Turkish Population, Turk fighter in ISIS is very limited

It is a good sign, because if Turkey fell like Syria, we would have incredibly big mess. Europeans are scared of 500 thousand Syrian refugees. Can you imagine 10 million Turkish refugees flooding into Greece and Europe?!

How is your personal feeling, are these statistics right about Turkey?

 

[Yetos]

Do you mean Iroquois or Iraqis? The are a world away.

the war among the American natives nearby great lakes

 

[Yetos]

Do you have any evidence to support these 400 daesh soldiers. No. Many of the soldiers who participated in the Syrian war, went before that Isis was formed. The goal was to fight against Assad. Today the number is almost zero. Many citizens of Britain and France went to fight in Syria, this not mean these states are Islamic. Again, do you have any evidence to support your claims against kosova. The only state partly theocratic in Europe is Greece.

not me
but imam Tzelebi has many

 

[Yetos]

Mithra is described in the Zoroastrian Avesta scriptures as, "Mithra of wide pastures, of the thousand ears, and of the myriad eyes,"(Yasna 1:3), "the lofty, and the everlasting...the province ruler,"(Yasna 1:11) "the Yazad (divinity) of the spoken name"(Yasna 3:5), and "the holy,"(Yasna 3:13)


Mithra = SUN or Mithra = Starchild


The Khorda Avesta (Book of Common Prayer) also refer to Mithra in the Litany to the Sun, "Homage to Mithra of wide cattle pastures,"(Khwarshed Niyayesh 5), "Whose word is true, who is of the assembly,Who has a thousand ears, the well-shaped one,Who has ten thousand eyes, the exalted one,Who has wide knowledge, the helpful one,Who sleeps not, the ever wakeful.We sacrifice to Mithra, The lord of all countries,Whom Ahura Mazda created the most glorious, Of the supernatural yazads. So may there come to us for aid, Both Mithra and Ahura, the two exalted ones,"(Khwarshed Niyayesh 6-7), "I shall sacrifice to his mace, well aimed against the skulls of the Daevas,"(Khwarshed Niyayesh 15). Some recent theories have claimed Mithra represents the sun itself, but the Khorda Avesta refers to the sun as a separate entity as well as the moon with which the sun has "the best of friendships," (Khwarshed Niyayesh 15)



Before the advent of Zoroastrianism and was associated with the axis mundi, or the centre of the world. The most common image of Zurvān depicts a winged, lion-headed deity encircled by a serpent, representing the motion of the SUN.

http://www.britannica.com/topic/Zurvan



Also there's a link between Zurvan and the chief solar deity in Hinduism, Surya (Suraya). The term Surya also refers to the Sun, in general

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surya


"Some scholars seek an origin for Zurvanism outside Zoroastrianism, in the worship of an ancient Median or pre-Iranian god. Although in its fatalism and pessimism Zurvanism is basically opposed to true Zoroastrianism, it seems probable that in cult and in a large body of doctrine it made few breaks with orthodoxy. It was in Zurvanite form that Zoroastrianism influenced Mithraism (in which Zurvān was an important deity) and Manichaeism.

http://www.britannica.com/topic/Zurvanism

Mithras = Μιθρας
born from stone μυδρος
Mithras eligion is still alive today
older connect it with Indian and Avestan,
modern connect it with Cappadokian,
the killing of bull is still hapenning at Greece and Bulgaria
as also the worship of the twins, only different names due to the fear of monotheists
Mithras seems to be an Anatolian religion today
he is probably connected with the underground cities of Capadokia,
other scholars say that he was a Thracian deity since has a Phrygian helmet

At the Greek religion Mithras can be the giant Ανταιος antes=rocky moyntains
Mithrium has been found from almost before 1 century AD,
He was worshiped inside earth at deep caves, or at buildings build as caves with no windows or doors, total darkness,
such buildings are called Μιθρια (stone made) by Greeks of East, and Φουρνοι by Greeks of the west,
Mithros at the Greeks of minor Asia is the stone, μυδρος,
although it is a name of α Persian satrap family who after Alexander got Hellenized and ruled a Greco-Persian empire
Mithridates Μιθριδατης,

many modern consider it a Cappadokian religion from their underground cities which pass to Thracian,
All mithriums have 2 air conductors
1 is the entrance/exit 2 is the air/smoke exit to feed fire with oxygen

if you want you are invited at 17 January or 21 May (big day) to go to local

btw Mithras is born the 3rd day after the weakness of sun, 25 of December with modern callendar


modern scholars believe that Mithras religion has nothing to do with Indian Mitra and religion of son
since many Mithras statue or paintings are connecting him with moon

remember the highest degree of western Mithras religion for man was to become a Περσευς a Perseus a Persian and have your own Ile Ιλη
while for woman to become lion or hyaena (lENA as found at tomb at France)

 

[Goga]

" Turmoil in Turkey Leads Lira to Longest Weekly Rout in 16 Years

The government's conflict with the Kurdish population has made the lira one of the worst performing emerging market currencies "


http://www.businessweekme.com/Bloomberg/newsmid/190/newsid/1106/Turmoil-in-Turkey-Leads-Lira-to-Longest-Weekly-Rout-in-16-Years

 

[Piro Ilir]

Does it change any thing? If I think that Capitalism is Evil and Turkey is a capitalist country, answer is clear.

So what is the right system according to you?

 

[Piro Ilir]

I'm the purest Kurd you can get, and I'm Ezdi. Nothing to do wil Islam at all.

The original religion and the only native Kurdish religion of the Kurds is Yazdanism and Zoroastrianism. All Kurmanji Kurds were like me and were Ezdi. Sorani Kurds are Zoroastrians, like Persians..

Religion is a distinct thing from the ethnicity. A Kurd may be whether a communist, a muslim, a christian, a Buddhist, a Nazis, etc.

 

[Piro Ilir]

You are short sighted. You have to have a vision. Islam is only 1000 years old, while Iranid (Aryan) race is 8000 years old, from the era of the Sumerians. At one point Persians and Kurds were the same people. Both nations are descendants of proto-Iranic Mitanni who lived next to the Hittites in Northern Mesopotamia. Mitanni and Kassites evolved from the Sumerians. And descendants of Mitanni were Medes & Persians. Sooner or later Ayatollahs of Iran will go away. 1000 years ago Persians were Zoroastrians, there was no Islam in Persia.
PKK has defeated Islam in Kurdistan, Persians will also defeat this alian Arabo-Semitic religion Islam in their own country.

I've got a vision. I'm sure Islam will be defeated in Persia, like it was defeated in Kurdistan. When that happens, Kurds and Persians should unite and build a confederation together.

There is no a race old 8000 years throughout the world. It's nonsense. People evolve. The Kurds and Iranians are different ethnicities. You think that the ethnicity doesn't change through millennia. [emoji47] . Weird.

I don't think that the theocratic leaders of Iran are gonna leave the power.

 

[Piro Ilir]

" FBI says 'Australian IS jihadist' is actually a Jewish American trolil named Joshua Ryne Goldberg "

http://www.smh.com.au/national/australian-is-jihadist-is-actually-an-jewish-american-*****-20150911-gjk852.html

What's your point here? Can you elaborate more?

 

[Piro Ilir]

I think he was partly Kurdish. He was killed before he could democratise Turkey. He had a solution to safe Turkey, but at that time Turks still tried to assimilate Kurds. But they failed miserably.
100 years ago there were just 2-3 million Kurds in Northern Kurdistan. And Turks couldn’t even assimilate them. Now there’re 50 million Kurds. Turks are doomed to fail. The best thing for the Turks is a federation between Kurds and Turks. If Turks are not willing to form a federation with Northern Kurdistan, they will be completely defeated. No they will be destroyed.
If Turkey will not start the negotiations with the Kurds, we will see a true Balkanization of Turkey. Parts of Turkey will go to Greece, Georgia, Armenian and Northern Kurdistan will be an independent country. There will be a total GENOCDE of the Turks.

I'm a Kurdish hardliner. I do really want a big war. Big war = shortest way to Great Kurdistan. Personally, I don't like Turks. And I do really hope that Turks continue with what they are doing and that there will be a civil war. I'm 100% sure that Kurds will defeat & destroy Turks during a civil war

According to me the civil war of Turkey, will be the most bloodiest, but also the shortest way to independent Great Kurdistan.

I don't think that Turks are gonna disappear so easy. They are a great nation. I don't think NATO agree with your visions.

 

[Piro Ilir]

not me
but imam Tzelebi has many

Who is imam tzelebi ?

 

[Boreas]

So what is the right system according to you?

Socialism, but I don't support to talk about too much these visual terms. I prefer talk about laws and practises. If there is good and usefull law in Iran, Cuba, Malawi or Ireland, I can take it

 

[LABERIA]

Who is imam tzelebi ?

Ajo cfare kuptoj une eshte se ky tipi te cilit i pergjigjesh ne kete postim eshte budalla. Ajo cfare nuk kuptoj eshte se perse vazhdon te merresh me nje idiot. Ka plot tema interesante ketu per te cilat mund te diskutosh. Mos e vazhdo te lutem se eshte shume idiot dhe shume acarues.

 

[Alan]

This is awful stuff happening. I have no idea how Turkey government figured out that by force, crime, murders, terror they will avoid independent Kurdistan. It will have opposite effect. Kurds will feel more alienated and hated and will desire their own country even more.

A Video appeared showing 14 year old Bünyamin Irci abducted by Turkish Gendarmerie into one of the vehicles and than shot with bullets in his head and body.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyGKr4bD1zw