Piro Ilir
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You called Alan : you are acting like an angry monkey. This is an uneducated behavior.Thanks for this mature perspective. I hope every member of forum will respect it
You called Alan : you are acting like an angry monkey. This is an uneducated behavior.Thanks for this mature perspective. I hope every member of forum will respect it
Italy has for quite a while has recognized Greek genocide against Albanians in South Epirus. In 1967 when Greece applied for NATO membership Italy insisted Greece recognize the genocide but Italian resistance was put down since at that time the communist Albanian government was anti western. There are signs that Greek government is flirting with Russia. If that happens Albania has assurances from the West that Southern Epirus will be returned to the legitimate owners Albanians.
You called Alan : you are acting like an angry monkey. This is an uneducated behavior.
Yetos, you are really a vicious man. Are you the one without a sin to throw first stone?Ηahahaha,
are you refering to Fascist Italy of Musolini?
and the Romania who was with Nazi?
well these were friend of Fasist Albania,
Xylia the Albanian organisation wchich under the help of Mussolini massacre and genocide the Greeks of Albania,
the North Epirotes,
thanks god Zerbas punish you well,
another ignorant,
At Romania Fascist and Nazi's made a big congress at WW2,
First Musolini wanted to Latinise half Greeks,
so He declare Thessaly Makedonia and Epirus as Aromani state the principate of Vlachs,
the first who recogn this was Romania,
the prince of the principat is in the photo,
that was a tremendous fail, only 300-400 from mountain Larissa aromani accepted this,
that made Musolini so ridiculous to its allies and his enemy, that gave order to support Albanian solution
after the fail of Vlach principate from Epirus to Turkey, and from Serbia to South Greece
Romanians protome a solution to Give Albania this principate, but with Epirus and Thessaly
which Musolini accept it and created with Albanian Xylia,
XYLIA IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE MASSACRES OF GREEK IN EPIRUS,
THE MOST KNOWN IS THE PARAMYTHIA CASE, ΖΕΡΒΑΣ, And XYLIA
for this is what you dream and you are,
Albanians a banch Ottoman empire dreamers,
and lovers of ItaloFasists and GermanoNazi's
and you are stick to it,
so much that you even dream what MUsoolini promised you
Yetos, you are really a vicious man. Are you the one without a sin to throw first stone?
You called Alan : you are acting like an angry monkey. This is an uneducated behavior.
At least NATO helped the population of Kosova from the Milosevic genocide and massacres. There was even a Turkish minority among the population of Kosova. So NATO is not all so bad. [emoji4]At least you didn't call me racist or imply that I am racist. This is something. It seems we are geeting hot each other
and finally you saw my point and share something about PKK-Turkey. Thanks.
Firstly civil cause always happen, did US use nuclear weapons on Japanese military base, twice? But you won't answer it because even I am totally right, it is not important for you. I didn't share link which made my post is spam.
but some examples from NATO
Wedding in Afghanistan
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/afghani...air-strike-kills-women-kids-at-wedding-party/
24 Pakistan Soldiers
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-15901363
All act like these be judge and if Amnesty International says that they are civils, Turkey should defend himself in the court too.
Everybody knows that goverments try to hide these things, and gerilla's try to increase civil lost to gain more sympathy
You are the only one genius who place on the same doctrine, the fascist Nazis ottomans and the Muslims. Your doctrine theory is the largest mess ever a man could read. You should open an office on the best university of the world.Ηahahaha,
are you refering to Fascist Italy of Musolini?
and the Romania who was with Nazi?
well these were friend of Fasist Albania,
Xylia the Albanian organisation wchich under the help of Mussolini massacre and genocide the Greeks of Albania,
the North Epirotes,
thanks god Zerbas punish you well,
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another ignorant,
At Romania Fascist and Nazi's made a big congress at WW2,
First Musolini wanted to Latinise half Greeks,
so He declare Thessaly Makedonia and Epirus as Aromani state the principate of Vlachs,
the first who recogn this was Romania,
the prince of the principat is in the photo,
that was a tremendous fail, only 300-400 from mountain Larissa aromani accepted this,
that made Musolini so ridiculous to its allies and his enemy, that gave order to support Albanian solution
after the fail of Vlach principate from Epirus to Turkey, and from Serbia to South Greece
Romanians protome a solution to Give Albania this principate, but with Epirus and Thessaly
which Musolini accept it and created with Albanian Xylia,
XYLIA IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE MASSACRES OF GREEK IN EPIRUS,
THE MOST KNOWN IS THE PARAMYTHIA CASE, ΖΕΡΒΑΣ, And XYLIA
for this is what you dream and you are,
Albanians a banch Ottoman empire dreamers,
and lovers of ItaloFasists and GermanoNazi's
and you are stick to it,
so much that you even dream what MUsoolini promised you
In Crimea and in south east Ukraine happened a clear invasion by the Russian army. The referendum on Crimea was held after the Russian soldiers had subjugated the area. The referendum there was probably manipulated. You think that Putin allows a right referendum. [emoji23] No wayI don't think English don't agree. I ruled great anti-campain about that.
What about Crimea and East Ukraine will you give that chance to them too.
Do you think majority will want to be independent?
Without peaceful independent process, there is no way to live Free Kurdistan. Shia Baghdat goverment will quickly go to Russia and Iran side. Turkey can be more Eurasian and interested in with Russia.
In that case Free Kurdistan will be surrendered by Russian allies and be isolated island
North and West Turkey
Southwest Assad's Syria
South Shia Iraq
East Armenia and Iran
and no access to sea
Yes, the bombing in Hiroshima and Nagasaki were a shameful event of the human history.in WW II the allies commited war crimes too
the atom bombs on Japan and the bombing of Dresden were war crimes
it is stupid to persecute every war crime , sometimes war crimes provoke other war crimes
that being said, I don't know anything about Greeks in Albania during WW I , I can't judge that
what happens today, I agree with Sile, Erdogan is playing a very dirty game and he is creating an atmosphere that reminds of Ottoman atrocities
At least NATO helped the population of Kosova from the Milosevic genocide and massacres. There was even a Turkish minority among the population of Kosova. So NATO is not all so bad. [emoji4]
Yes, the bombing in Hiroshima and Nagasaki were a shameful event of the human history.
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Those are some Greek solders slaughtering with axes the civil native Albanian population of south epirus. They are in Greek official uniforms.
The other pictures are disgusting, better don't look at them. It happen at 1945. Many civil Albanians who escaped the massacres were helped by their civil Greek neighbors to be safe.
/ντὴς ὑποκαταστ. Α.Τ.Ε. Παραμυθιᾶς • Κουρσουμῆς Θ. Κωνσταντῖνος, καφεπώλης • Κωνσταντίνου ἢ Κωσταγιάννης Ἰω. Κῶν/νός, σιδηρουργὸς • Κωνσταντίνου ἢ Κωσταγιάννης Ἰω. Παναγιώτης, σιδηρουργὸς • Μάνος Π. Νικόλαος, ἑστιάτορας • Μαρέτης Γ. Ἀνδρέας. χρυσοχόος • Μαρέτας Ν. Γεώργιος, ἑστιάτορας • Μητσιώνης Ἀναστ. Ἰωάννης, καφεπώλης • Μουσελίμης Σπ. Γεώργιος, Ράπτης • Μουσελίμης Π. Σταῦρος, δημοτικὸς ὑπάλληλος • Μπαζάκος Θ. Ἰωάννης, δημοδιδάσκαλος • Μπάρμπας Γ. Νικόλαος, ἔμπορος ὑφασμάτων • Μπάρμπας Νίκ. Σπυρίδων, ἔμπορος ὑφασμάτων • Νάστος Χρ. Εὐάγγελος, παντοπώλης • Πάκος Γ. Πάκος, τυρέμπορος • Παπαθανασίου Χρ. Βασίλειος, καφεπώλης • Πάσχος Γ. Γεώργιος, παντοπώλης • Πάσχος Δ. Λεωνίδας, τυρέμπορος • Ράπτης Δ. Ἀθανάσιος, ἔμπορος • Ρίγγας Γ. Ἀθανάσιος, ἔμπορος • Σιαμᾶς Πᾶν. Γεώργιος, ταχυδρομικὸς ὑπάλληλος • Σιωμόπουλος Β. Κῶν/νός, γυμνασιάρχης • Σπυρομήτσιος Παύλου Σπυρίδων, ὑποδηματοποιὸς • Στρουγγάρης Ἄπ. Ἀνδρέας, παντοπώλης • Σωτηρίου Χρ. Κῶν/νός, ἀγωγεὺς • Σωτηρίου Κ Γεώργιος, ἀγωγεὺς • Τζώης Δήμ. Κῶν/νός, βιβλιοπώλης • Τσαμάτος Εὐάγγ. Νικόλαος, Ράπτης • Τσίλης Δήμ. Κῶν/νός, ἀγωγεὺς • Τσορλας Δήμ. Γεώργιος, δημοτικὸς γραμματέας • Τσορλας Β. Θεόδωρος, ὑποδηματοποιὸς • Τσορλας Β. Κῶν/νός, ὑποδηματοποιὸς • Φάτσιος Γ. Θωμάς, μυλωθρὸς • Φείδης Θ. Ἀριστοφάνης, λογιστὴς • Χρυσοχόου Κ. Ἀπόστολος, συνταξιοῦχος σχολάρχης καὶ γραμματέας τῆς μητροπόλεως
) Πουλερικὰ (ἕνα μέρος) : 30.000 (ἔ) Κυψέλαι : 742
and christians?
, and they live everywhere,
GOD today is heOn the are Greek military officers on their official uniforms.I do not see any mark that this a photo of Greeks Killing Albanians,
There is no Genocide by Greeks, neither a mention in UN
BUT THERE THE SLAUGHTER OF GREEK EPIROTANS BY ALBANIAN MUSLIMS WITH HELP AND SUPPORT FROM FASIST ALBANIA AND ITALIA.
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THESE ARE THE NAMES OF THE 49 elected local authorities all Greeks
THAT ALBANIANS SLAIN IN THE MIDDLE OF THE VILLAGE OF PARAMYTHIA, at 29/09/1943
• Τσαμάτος Πᾶν. Εὐάγγελος, ἱερέας • Ἀλιγιάννης Φ. Δημήτριος, χαλκουργὸς • Ἀλιγιάννης Δήμ. Ἰωάννης, παντοπώλης • Ἀλιγιάννης Φ. Κωνσταντῖνος, χαλκουργὸς • Ἀλιγιάνης Κ. Σωτήριος, παντοπώλης • Ἀποστολίδης π. Ἀπόστολος, ὑποδηματοποιὸς • Βαλασκάκης Σώτ. Ἐλευθέριος, ἰατρὸς • Γιαννάκης Ἰωάν. Νικόλαος, καθηγητὴς • Δρίμτζιας Δήμ. Χαράλαμπος, γεωργὸς • Εὐαγγέλλου Ε. Εὐθύμιος, καφεπώλης • Ζιάγκος Γ. Κωνσταντῖνος, δημοτικὸς ὑπάλληλος • Κακούρης Ἄπ. Περικλῆς, δημοδιδάσκαλος • Κατσούλης Ἂθ Κωνσταντῖνος, δημοδιδάσκαλος • Κλήμης Θεόδ. Δημήτριος, ἀγωγεὺς • Κοτσαλέρης Ε. Ἐμμανουήλ, δ/ντὴς ὑποκαταστ. Α.Τ.Ε. Παραμυθιᾶς • Κουρσουμῆς Θ. Κωνσταντῖνος, καφεπώλης • Κωνσταντίνου ἢ Κωσταγιάννης Ἰω. Κῶν/νός, σιδηρουργὸς • Κωνσταντίνου ἢ Κωσταγιάννης Ἰω. Παναγιώτης, σιδηρουργὸς • Μάνος Π. Νικόλαος, ἑστιάτορας • Μαρέτης Γ. Ἀνδρέας. χρυσοχόος • Μαρέτας Ν. Γεώργιος, ἑστιάτορας • Μητσιώνης Ἀναστ. Ἰωάννης, καφεπώλης • Μουσελίμης Σπ. Γεώργιος, Ράπτης • Μουσελίμης Π. Σταῦρος, δημοτικὸς ὑπάλληλος • Μπαζάκος Θ. Ἰωάννης, δημοδιδάσκαλος • Μπάρμπας Γ. Νικόλαος, ἔμπορος ὑφασμάτων • Μπάρμπας Νίκ. Σπυρίδων, ἔμπορος ὑφασμάτων • Νάστος Χρ. Εὐάγγελος, παντοπώλης • Πάκος Γ. Πάκος, τυρέμπορος • Παπαθανασίου Χρ. Βασίλειος, καφεπώλης • Πάσχος Γ. Γεώργιος, παντοπώλης • Πάσχος Δ. Λεωνίδας, τυρέμπορος • Ράπτης Δ. Ἀθανάσιος, ἔμπορος • Ρίγγας Γ. Ἀθανάσιος, ἔμπορος • Σιαμᾶς Πᾶν. Γεώργιος, ταχυδρομικὸς ὑπάλληλος • Σιωμόπουλος Β. Κῶν/νός, γυμνασιάρχης • Σπυρομήτσιος Παύλου Σπυρίδων, ὑποδηματοποιὸς • Στρουγγάρης Ἄπ. Ἀνδρέας, παντοπώλης • Σωτηρίου Χρ. Κῶν/νός, ἀγωγεὺς • Σωτηρίου Κ Γεώργιος, ἀγωγεὺς • Τζώης Δήμ. Κῶν/νός, βιβλιοπώλης • Τσαμάτος Εὐάγγ. Νικόλαος, Ράπτης • Τσίλης Δήμ. Κῶν/νός, ἀγωγεὺς • Τσορλας Δήμ. Γεώργιος, δημοτικὸς γραμματέας • Τσορλας Β. Θεόδωρος, ὑποδηματοποιὸς • Τσορλας Β. Κῶν/νός, ὑποδηματοποιὸς • Φάτσιος Γ. Θωμάς, μυλωθρὸς • Φείδης Θ. Ἀριστοφάνης, λογιστὴς • Χρυσοχόου Κ. Ἀπόστολος, συνταξιοῦχος σχολάρχης καὶ γραμματέας τῆς μητροπόλεως
YOU WANTED TO DO WITH PARAMYTHIA THE SAME YOU DID IN MOSCHOPOLIS WITH AROMANIAN,
BUT ZERBAS AWAITED YOU
WATCH MINUTE 9:01
The XYLIA, the Albanian Legeon of 20 000 men that entered and slain Epirotans with lincense of Italians
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YOU CAN SEE THE ALBANIANS WEARING BLACK HOOD/COWL
Typical of every criminal,
EVen the communist party of EAM after that deserted you.
XYLIA or KSILIA
want more?
1. Δολοφονηθέντες ὑπὸ Τσάμηδων μόνων ἢ ἐν συνεργασίᾳ μὲ τὰ στρατεύματα κατοχῆς: 632 MURDERED GREEKS BY ALBANIANS 632
2. Ἐξαφανισθέντες καὶ ἀπαχθέντες ὡς ὅμηροι : 428 MISSING HOSTAGES GREEKS BY KSILIA MILITIA 428
3. Βιασμοὶ γυναικῶν καὶ κορασίδων : 209 VIRGIN WOMEN RAPING 209
4. Ἀπαγωγαὶ : 31 KIDNAP FOR RANSOM 31
5. Πυρποληθεῖσαι οἰκίαι : 2.332 BURNED DOWN HOUSES 2332
6. Λεηλατηθέντα ὁλοσχερῶς χωρία : 53 RAVAGING AND STEALING VILLAGES 53
7. Διαρπαγέντα ζῶα : (ἅ) Αἰγοπρόβατα : 37556 (β) Βοοειδῆ : 9.285 (γ) Ἱπποειδῆ : 4.185 δ) Πουλερικὰ (ἕνα μέρος) : 30.000 (ἔ) Κυψέλαι : 742
ANIMALS STOLEN TO FEED ALBANIAN MILITIA OR TO SOLD IN ALBANIA
For one year you were terroring and slain and rob the Epirotans
until 18/06/1944 when the village was libarated.
WANT MORE?
BATTLE OF MENINA 18/08/1944
86 Germans
109 Albanians
witness
David Wallace Allies officer with guerilla troops in Greece
Hagen Fleischer German Officer head officer in many operations in Epirus
THE LIST THAT ALBANIANS GAVE TO NAZI SS GIVEN BY GERMAN OFFICERS,
The German documents with names of KSILIA members who cooperated with them in order to destroy Hellenism from Epirus
enough.
I gave names of dead
and foreign officers that were there
and offcial pappers/reports from war.
THE BATTLE OF MENINA 17-18/08/1944 was EVEN Ordered BY BRITISH HIGH OFFICER TORRENCE
The battle of KEFALOBRYSO 30/06/1944 were Albanians were the main corp under SS Officers
ALBANIANS BURNED 2332 HOUSES,
and you still talking?
@ Lebrok
am I the vicious again?
CRIMES AGAINSTT HUMANITY MADE BY ALBANIANS
THE raid and pillage of PELOPOENSE OF 1780
THE GENOCIDE OF SOULIOTES
THE BURN DOWN OF MOSCHOPOLIS
The NEVESKA raids and pillage
The Massacres of locals at the revolt of Litohoro (Asaf)
THE MASSACRE OF PARAMYTHIA
On the are Greek military officers on their official uniforms.
My avatar is not a pope [emoji23]. He is at (father)Gjergj Fishta. An Albanian important priest. He was a good patriot too.
This is the pope. He is embracing an Albanian very old priest who survived the communist regime.
The first country that pope visited in Europe was Albania.
Those two man are Albanian commanders who fought against the ottomans. The shorter man on the right is Mihal Grameno, an Albanian Christian orthodox patriot who fought for the Albanian independence. He also is responsible for the execution and death of an important anti Albanian Greek priest. This Greek priest killed by order of mihal grameno was plotting plans against the Albanian independence. You can see a Muslim and a Christian working together for their own country. Cherchis Topulli and Mihal Grameno.
I am not waiting anything good from the UN, either waiting that them could recognize the genocide and ethnic cleansing of south epirus. It is an invalid organization. The right people and the right countries are becoming aware of the massacres made by the Greek officials during 1945, despite of the Greek fabrication of the propaganda.
On the photo you see three of the founders of the Albanian state at 1912. Muslims and Christians working together for the good of their own compatriots. Ismail Qemali, Hasan Prishtina and Luigj Gurakuqi.
On the photo is the Albanian Christian orthodox, Fan Noli . He was a priest. He was the founder of the independent Albanian orthodox church. Was among the best Albanian patriots.
Those two guys are wearing traditional south Albanian clothes from south epirus. They are chames, and they are dancing a traditional autochtonous dance of south epirus.
I don't have knowledge on the Greek language, therefore I can't read your sources. But no one can justify his own crime by another crime happened before. Again, 28000 Albanian fighters were killed during the WWII fighting against the Nazis. The population of Albania was maximum 800000 inhabitants. My two grandparents from my mother side were partisans. Therefore claiming that Albanians were Nazis and fascist fails again. No a single Jew was killed in Albania. They all were hidden on the homes of the Albanians, Muslim Albanian including. These are historic evidences. The Israeli government have recognized the Albanian help for their people. This is official not rumors as generally you like to believe.
The only ethnic people of south epirus and further south who collaborated with the Nazis were the Vlach people from pindus area, and thesalia. I can bring even the names if you want, but probably you already know those names. All the chams Albanian collaboration with the Nazis was the fabrication of those people which wanted to cover their Nazis past. From the beginning of Greek state in 1830, throughout south epirus started an ethnic cleansing against the Albanians. They used everything, including the fabrication of this not true collaboration with the Nazis. They expelled and deported all the Muslim Albanians. The Greeks forced and made pressing into the orthodox Albanians to leave . The orthodox Albanians migrated into south Greece and outside of the country. A human genocide can't be justified, no matter what happened before.Blah blah blah
NOTHING TO BE TAKEN SERIOUS,
JUST SPAM AND ADVERTISEMENTS
SS SCANDERBERG 21 Mt division Albanian Nazi's
KSILIA / Milica Albanian Fasists,
slain and slaughter of Epirotan at WW2,
GLOBAL OFFICIAL HISTORY that you can not Deny
anyway, as long the forum members allow you to spam and advertise whatever you free to say whatever,
serious discusion can not be done with whatever
you must read Ismael Kenan Vlore,
there you will find many
The only ethnic peopleof south epirus and further south who collaborated with the Nazis were the Vlach people from pindus area, and thesalia. I can bring even the names if you want, but probably you already know those names. All the chams Albanian collaboration with the Nazis was the fabrication of those people which wanted to cover their Nazis past. From the beginning of Greek state in 1830, throughout south epirus started an ethnic cleansing against the Albanians. They used everything, including the fabrication of this not true collaboration with the Nazis. They expelled and deported all the Muslim Albanians. The Greeks forced and made pressing into the orthodox Albanians to leave . The orthodox Albanians migrated into south Greece and outside of the country. A human genocide can't be justified, no matter what happened before.
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Those are Albanian orphans kids, after the Napoleon Zerva massacres.
Do you want some more
Do you want some more.
Thousands of people were forced to leave their properties and their homeland .
Ali Demi was the regiment of south epirots fighting against the Nazis.
All what happened there was an ethnic cleansing and has nothing to do with Nazis nor with anything else. The Greek nationalists used the WWII chaotic situation to make this ethnic cleansing.
There is no even a single Jew killed by the Nazis in Albania. This is a historical fact, you like it or not. Not some conspiracy fabrications
SUCH
Today Turkish state has started burning villages in Diyarbakir down. Seems over 2000 burned villages are not enough shame in Turkish history.
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