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U.S. & Israel Attack Iran

Israel has the right to defend itself. However, the USA must not be dragged into an endless war just when progress is being made. Why should the world be made to suffer? Trump has no spine to reign in Netanyahu to stop, even as he sacrifices the prospects of the midterms, his base, and the 2028 election for his party...
 
Tbh idealistically we let Israel act in self defense against the terrorists in Lebanon without penalty aka closing the straight. They aren’t attacking Iran, its people, military or its infrastructure. We can’t let Israel sit back and allow these terrorists to walk all over them, and we can’t let the world take the penalty of heightened oil prices all bc Israel wasn’t nice to them.
Self defense should never be penalized but I’m also not one to bring the US into this. It’s not our war.
I will admit, tragically hundreds of Lebanese did die in that attack and they probably could’ve carried it out cleaner without civilian deaths.
 
kingdavid said:
Bingo
Smart vallicanus👍


Judea and Samaria
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I see .. the Jews are the chosen people and this is their promised land .. Ubermenschen und Lebensraum .. it's exact the same argumentation Hitler used to convince the Germans
 
bicicleur 2 said:
I see .. the Jews are the chosen people and this is their promised land .. Ubermenschen und Lebensraum .. it's exact the same argumentation Hitler used to convince the Germans
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we are not chosen for anything
we are regular people like anyone
just archeologically the west bank was part
of the geographical territory that our ancestors lived in
 
kingdavid said:
we are not chosen for anything
we are regular people like anyone
just archeologically the west bank was part
of the geographical territory that our ancestors lived in
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Land belongs to who ever has the power (i.e. procurement or in an extreme case, conquest) to take it/hold it, let's be real about this. Without force and power, these claims are toothless and sentimental. Israelites who modern Jews are partly related to, were a mix of different groups who pioneered or invaded the region. With about a third of It coming from Iran.
 
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kingdavid said:
Bingo
Smart vallicanus👍


Judea and Samaria
Click to expand...
I see .. the Jews are the chosen people and this is their promised land .. Ubermenschen und Lebensraum .. it's exact the same argumentation Hitler used to convince the Germans
kingdavid said:
we are not chosen for anything
we are regular people like anyone
just archeologically the west bank was part
of the geographical territory that our ancestors lived in
Click to expand...
What an absurd argument. Mussolini couldn't have done better. We should all go back to the situation 2000 years ago. Why not 500 years, why not 4000 years? If you apply the same reasoning, all Jews should be kicked out of Europe, because they don't belong there.
 
bicileur 2 what the **** do you want
check your own Belgium it is filled with Muslims
leave Israel alone
 
Now Trump wants to block or boycott the straight himself bc they couldn’t agree during the peace talks! Didn’t he spend all this time freaking out bc Iran didn’t want to let it go???!! He’s doing what Iran probably would’ve done themselves! So it’s prob a win for them.
it’s really hard to be that much of a dumb***, the next step down is a straight lobotomy…
 
This is the most laughably entertaining presidency I’ve ever been under, at the same time scariest. I couldn’t pull moves this laughably dumb if I stick a toothpick in my brain
 
Maybe blocking the Hormuz strait is his smartest move so far. Iran was using the strait exclusively for themselves.
We'll see how this will work out now. Trump finaly realises he can't win. He's going for a stale mate.

Trump should never have attacked Iran. He should have gone after the shadow fleet instead.
 
yea irans no less of a scumbag for forcing a toll on boats crossing the straight just bc they need to raise funds for reparations. These ships are forced to pay for a country they prob have nothing to do with! And it’s a heavy toll, like in the millions. It’s basically a forced gofundme
 
IM DYING!!! So after arguing with the pope about Iran Trump posts an AI image of himself as a Christ figure healing a dying man ET style with his finger with demonic entities in the clouds!!! He then takes it down after slowly realizing it was a bad idea and when questioned about it he says he portrayed himself as a doctor 🤣!! A doctor that heals ET style with his glowing fingers, classic!!
I almost want him to run a third term bc he’s a walking comedy movie
 
davef said:
IM DYING!!! So after arguing with the pope about Iran Trump posts an AI image of himself as a Christ figure healing a dying man ET style with his finger with demonic entities in the clouds!!! He then takes it down after slowly realizing it was a bad idea and when questioned about it he says he portrayed himself as a doctor 🤣!! A doctor that heals ET style with his glowing fingers, classic!!
I almost want him to run a third term bc he’s a walking comedy movie
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As long as he doesn't spark off a nuclear conflict!
 
The Gulf states are not only buying Ukraine anti-drone defense systems, they are also interested in their sea drones to patroll and protect the Gulf and the Strait.
 
What a degenerate piece of **** Iran completely threw the rug, broke the ceasefire and started attacking innocent ships and declared the strait closed bc whatever is going on in that degenerate ayatollahs reptilian brain of his! These innocent mariners TRUSTED they could cross safely and NOPE HAHAHAH NYA NYA GOTCHA SUCKERS 🤡! So as someone who delivers oil, who can you trust?? Bc at this point they’re gonna feel like every time they cross is a gamble with death, and I bet even less would be brave enough to cross even after we reopen the strait and I don’t think the Econ would boom like it did on Fri
 
He was literally wailing for hours during a meeting about gas prices like a kid who didn’t get the toy he wanted for Christmas and had to be thrown out the room. Even I’m in shock….
 
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