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Genetic study Ancient DNA of Roman Danubian Frontier and Slavic Migrations (Olalde 2021)

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]Helladic_Logkas_MBA:Log04:Clemente_2021[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFC200, align: right"]9.29563338[/TD]
[TD]O_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF7200, align: right"]11.65169516[/TD]
[TD]N_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF5900, align: right"]12.36874286[/TD]
[TD]Romanians[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF4B00, align: right"]12.78404474[/TD]
[TD]Bulgarian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF4500, align: right"]12.97004241[/TD]
[TD]Bulgarians[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF3400, align: right"]13.46156009[/TD]
[TD]TSI30[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF1E00, align: right"]14.12935950[/TD]
[TD]Tuscan[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0100, align: right"]14.96762172[/TD]
[TD]North_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0011, align: right"]15.50102255[/TD]
[TD]C_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0058, align: right"]17.59681221[/TD]
[TD]Greek[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00EF, align: right"]22.03691902[/TD]
[TD]Baleares[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00FD, align: right"]22.45305324[/TD]
[TD]French[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00FF, align: right"]22.48897063[/TD]
[TD]Hungarians[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FD00FF, align: right"]22.57076206[/TD]
[TD]French[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FB00FF, align: right"]22.60822417[/TD]
[TD]S_Italian_Sicilian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FB00FF, align: right"]22.61788894[/TD]
[TD]Sicilian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F400FF, align: right"]22.81847497[/TD]
[TD]Galicia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #E000FF, align: right"]23.42441034[/TD]
[TD]Extremadura[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #CE00FF, align: right"]23.94427071[/TD]
[TD]Portuguese[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #BC00FF, align: right"]24.47608016[/TD]
[TD]English_mixed[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #B900FF, align: right"]24.54564931[/TD]
[TD]Ashkenazy_Jews[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #B600FF, align: right"]24.66077452[/TD]
[TD]Ashkenazi[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #AB00FF, align: right"]24.96116584[/TD]
[TD]German[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #9400FF, align: right"]25.64620440[/TD]
[TD]Mixed_Germanic[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #9100FF, align: right"]25.73028954[/TD]
[TD]Murcia[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]Helladic_Logkas_MBA:Log02:Clemente_2021[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #AAFF00, align: right"]5.00732463[/TD]
[TD]O_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFF300, align: right"]7.84764933[/TD]
[TD]C_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFE900, align: right"]8.14922696[/TD]
[TD]Tuscan[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFDE00, align: right"]8.46017139[/TD]
[TD]TSI30[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFB500, align: right"]9.66201325[/TD]
[TD]Greek[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF5D00, align: right"]12.26597326[/TD]
[TD]N_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF2500, align: right"]13.92202212[/TD]
[TD]Bulgarians[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF1C00, align: right"]14.18514716[/TD]
[TD]North_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF1100, align: right"]14.49394701[/TD]
[TD]Bulgarian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0F00, align: right"]14.57112213[/TD]
[TD]Sicilian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0400, align: right"]14.87650833[/TD]
[TD]S_Italian_Sicilian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0007, align: right"]15.19429169[/TD]
[TD]Romanians[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF002F, align: right"]16.39294055[/TD]
[TD]Ashkenazi[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0036, align: right"]16.57490875[/TD]
[TD]Ashkenazy_Jews[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FE00FF, align: right"]22.53518804[/TD]
[TD]Sephardic_Jews[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D100FF, align: right"]23.86128873[/TD]
[TD]Morocco_Jews[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D000FF, align: right"]23.89394275[/TD]
[TD]Baleares[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #A000FF, align: right"]25.28810195[/TD]
[TD]Galicia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #8200FF, align: right"]26.16534158[/TD]
[TD]Extremadura[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #7400FF, align: right"]26.59044565[/TD]
[TD]Portuguese[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #6400FF, align: right"]27.05539687[/TD]
[TD]Canarias[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #6000FF, align: right"]27.16439766[/TD]
[TD]Murcia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #3F00FF, align: right"]28.13880417[/TD]
[TD]Andalucia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #3700FF, align: right"]28.37048643[/TD]
[TD]Castilla_Y_Leon[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #2500FF, align: right"]28.92359763[/TD]
[TD]Spaniards

[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
 
Jovialis said:
[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]Helladic_Logkas_MBA:Log04:Clemente_2021[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFC200, align: right"]9.29563338[/TD]
[TD]O_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF7200, align: right"]11.65169516[/TD]
[TD]N_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF5900, align: right"]12.36874286[/TD]
[TD]Romanians[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF4B00, align: right"]12.78404474[/TD]
[TD]Bulgarian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF4500, align: right"]12.97004241[/TD]
[TD]Bulgarians[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF3400, align: right"]13.46156009[/TD]
[TD]TSI30[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF1E00, align: right"]14.12935950[/TD]
[TD]Tuscan[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0100, align: right"]14.96762172[/TD]
[TD]North_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0011, align: right"]15.50102255[/TD]
[TD]C_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0058, align: right"]17.59681221[/TD]
[TD]Greek[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00EF, align: right"]22.03691902[/TD]
[TD]Baleares[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00FD, align: right"]22.45305324[/TD]
[TD]French[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00FF, align: right"]22.48897063[/TD]
[TD]Hungarians[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FD00FF, align: right"]22.57076206[/TD]
[TD]French[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FB00FF, align: right"]22.60822417[/TD]
[TD]S_Italian_Sicilian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FB00FF, align: right"]22.61788894[/TD]
[TD]Sicilian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F400FF, align: right"]22.81847497[/TD]
[TD]Galicia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #E000FF, align: right"]23.42441034[/TD]
[TD]Extremadura[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #CE00FF, align: right"]23.94427071[/TD]
[TD]Portuguese[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #BC00FF, align: right"]24.47608016[/TD]
[TD]English_mixed[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #B900FF, align: right"]24.54564931[/TD]
[TD]Ashkenazy_Jews[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #B600FF, align: right"]24.66077452[/TD]
[TD]Ashkenazi[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #AB00FF, align: right"]24.96116584[/TD]
[TD]German[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #9400FF, align: right"]25.64620440[/TD]
[TD]Mixed_Germanic[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #9100FF, align: right"]25.73028954[/TD]
[TD]Murcia[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]Helladic_Logkas_MBA:Log02:Clemente_2021[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #AAFF00, align: right"]5.00732463[/TD]
[TD]O_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFF300, align: right"]7.84764933[/TD]
[TD]C_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFE900, align: right"]8.14922696[/TD]
[TD]Tuscan[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFDE00, align: right"]8.46017139[/TD]
[TD]TSI30[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFB500, align: right"]9.66201325[/TD]
[TD]Greek[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF5D00, align: right"]12.26597326[/TD]
[TD]N_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF2500, align: right"]13.92202212[/TD]
[TD]Bulgarians[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF1C00, align: right"]14.18514716[/TD]
[TD]North_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF1100, align: right"]14.49394701[/TD]
[TD]Bulgarian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0F00, align: right"]14.57112213[/TD]
[TD]Sicilian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0400, align: right"]14.87650833[/TD]
[TD]S_Italian_Sicilian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0007, align: right"]15.19429169[/TD]
[TD]Romanians[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF002F, align: right"]16.39294055[/TD]
[TD]Ashkenazi[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0036, align: right"]16.57490875[/TD]
[TD]Ashkenazy_Jews[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FE00FF, align: right"]22.53518804[/TD]
[TD]Sephardic_Jews[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D100FF, align: right"]23.86128873[/TD]
[TD]Morocco_Jews[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D000FF, align: right"]23.89394275[/TD]
[TD]Baleares[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #A000FF, align: right"]25.28810195[/TD]
[TD]Galicia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #8200FF, align: right"]26.16534158[/TD]
[TD]Extremadura[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #7400FF, align: right"]26.59044565[/TD]
[TD]Portuguese[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #6400FF, align: right"]27.05539687[/TD]
[TD]Canarias[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #6000FF, align: right"]27.16439766[/TD]
[TD]Murcia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #3F00FF, align: right"]28.13880417[/TD]
[TD]Andalucia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #3700FF, align: right"]28.37048643[/TD]
[TD]Castilla_Y_Leon[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #2500FF, align: right"]28.92359763[/TD]
[TD]Spaniards
[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
Click to expand...

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]Balkan_(Bulgaria)_IA:I5769:Mathieson_2018[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #CBFF00, align: right"]5.97005863[/TD]
[TD]C_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFF400, align: right"]7.83121319[/TD]
[TD]Tuscan[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFCA00, align: right"]9.06121405[/TD]
[TD]Sicilian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFC700, align: right"]9.15518979[/TD]
[TD]TSI30[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFBD00, align: right"]9.44646495[/TD]
[TD]S_Italian_Sicilian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF6400, align: right"]12.06840089[/TD]
[TD]O_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF4E00, align: right"]12.69731074[/TD]
[TD]Greek[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF2D00, align: right"]13.67207738[/TD]
[TD]Ashkenazi[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF1A00, align: right"]14.24926665[/TD]
[TD]Ashkenazy_Jews[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF002C, align: right"]16.28460930[/TD]
[TD]Sephardic_Jews[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF002C, align: right"]16.29218217[/TD]
[TD]North_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF003C, align: right"]16.76432820[/TD]
[TD]N_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0058, align: right"]17.58261926[/TD]
[TD]Morocco_Jews[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #9300FF, align: right"]25.69042039[/TD]
[TD]Baleares[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #8A00FF, align: right"]25.95176873[/TD]
[TD]Bulgarians[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #8400FF, align: right"]26.11159704[/TD]
[TD]Cypriots[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #7700FF, align: right"]26.49297454[/TD]
[TD]Bulgarian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #5600FF, align: right"]27.47030579[/TD]
[TD]Romanians[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #4F00FF, align: right"]27.68851206[/TD]
[TD]Andalucia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #4D00FF, align: right"]27.74512029[/TD]
[TD]Canarias[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #4B00FF, align: right"]27.78383883[/TD]
[TD]Murcia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #4500FF, align: right"]27.96418960[/TD]
[TD]Galicia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #3700FF, align: right"]28.37079660[/TD]
[TD]Extremadura[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #2000FF, align: right"]29.05719188[/TD]
[TD]Portuguese[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]30.06958097[/TD]
[TD]Castilla_Y_Leon

[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
 
[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]Bronze_Age_Illyrians[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #8BFF00, align: right"]4.09920724[/TD]
[TD]N_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F3FF00, align: right"]7.16161993[/TD]
[TD]North_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFE00, align: right"]7.52141609[/TD]
[TD]O_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFF700, align: right"]7.74102706[/TD]
[TD]TSI30[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFBF00, align: right"]9.37360656[/TD]
[TD]Tuscan[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF5C00, align: right"]12.29670688[/TD]
[TD]C_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF001B, align: right"]15.79831953[/TD]
[TD]Baleares[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF004F, align: right"]17.31780875[/TD]
[TD]Galicia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF005E, align: right"]17.77266722[/TD]
[TD]Bulgarians[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0060, align: right"]17.82596140[/TD]
[TD]Romanians[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0064, align: right"]17.94900833[/TD]
[TD]Greek[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF006C, align: right"]18.18297280[/TD]
[TD]Extremadura[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF006E, align: right"]18.22950630[/TD]
[TD]Bulgarian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0086, align: right"]18.93919745[/TD]
[TD]Portuguese[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00A0, align: right"]19.69885530[/TD]
[TD]Murcia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00B8, align: right"]20.42285240[/TD]
[TD]Castilla_Y_Leon[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00BD, align: right"]20.55231617[/TD]
[TD]Andalucia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00BE, align: right"]20.58414195[/TD]
[TD]Spaniards[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00C5, align: right"]20.80252148[/TD]
[TD]Canarias[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00CA, align: right"]20.95075416[/TD]
[TD]French[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00CB, align: right"]20.95902908[/TD]
[TD]Cataluna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00CE, align: right"]21.05509914[/TD]
[TD]Sicilian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00D2, align: right"]21.17245616[/TD]
[TD]S_Italian_Sicilian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00D7, align: right"]21.30932190[/TD]
[TD]French[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00EA, align: right"]21.88786193[/TD]
[TD]Spanish

[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
 
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Balkans_IA is modeled as Slovenian_IA plus Aegean_BA/IA. If anything, populations like Log4 and Log2 who would be closer to Slovenian_IA mixed with Aegean people to create the Balkans IA
 
And where is that sample Slovenian_IA? I haven't seen any Slovenian_IA sample before?
 
Hawk said:
And where is that sample Slovenian_IA? I haven't seen any Slovenian_IA sample before?
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Maybe it will be released once this study is published.
 
Jovialis said:
[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]Balkan_(Bulgaria)_IA:I5769:Mathieson_2018[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #CBFF00, align: right"]5.97005863[/TD]
[TD]C_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFF400, align: right"]7.83121319[/TD]
[TD]Tuscan[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFCA00, align: right"]9.06121405[/TD]
[TD]Sicilian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFC700, align: right"]9.15518979[/TD]
[TD]TSI30[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFBD00, align: right"]9.44646495[/TD]
[TD]S_Italian_Sicilian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF6400, align: right"]12.06840089[/TD]
[TD]O_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF4E00, align: right"]12.69731074[/TD]
[TD]Greek[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF2D00, align: right"]13.67207738[/TD]
[TD]Ashkenazi[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF1A00, align: right"]14.24926665[/TD]
[TD]Ashkenazy_Jews[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF002C, align: right"]16.28460930[/TD]
[TD]Sephardic_Jews[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF002C, align: right"]16.29218217[/TD]
[TD]North_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF003C, align: right"]16.76432820[/TD]
[TD]N_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0058, align: right"]17.58261926[/TD]
[TD]Morocco_Jews[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #9300FF, align: right"]25.69042039[/TD]
[TD]Baleares[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #8A00FF, align: right"]25.95176873[/TD]
[TD]Bulgarians[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #8400FF, align: right"]26.11159704[/TD]
[TD]Cypriots[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #7700FF, align: right"]26.49297454[/TD]
[TD]Bulgarian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #5600FF, align: right"]27.47030579[/TD]
[TD]Romanians[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #4F00FF, align: right"]27.68851206[/TD]
[TD]Andalucia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #4D00FF, align: right"]27.74512029[/TD]
[TD]Canarias[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #4B00FF, align: right"]27.78383883[/TD]
[TD]Murcia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #4500FF, align: right"]27.96418960[/TD]
[TD]Galicia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #3700FF, align: right"]28.37079660[/TD]
[TD]Extremadura[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #2000FF, align: right"]29.05719188[/TD]
[TD]Portuguese[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]30.06958097[/TD]
[TD]Castilla_Y_Leon
[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
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Given that Stuvane is at a distance of 4 from Log2, clearly Romagna wasn't included. :)

Nice job.

Glad someone provided a really big study of the yDna in Albania. It certainly explains an approximately 20% combined Slavic and "Germanic" input, with the Germanic portion being roughly about 1/3. Unlike autosomal dna, where you can get the "picture" of the cluster from not many samples, with yDna the more samples the better, as we all know.
 
Jovialis said:
[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]Bronze_Age_Illyrians[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #8BFF00, align: right"]4.09920724[/TD]
[TD]N_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F3FF00, align: right"]7.16161993[/TD]
[TD]North_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFE00, align: right"]7.52141609[/TD]
[TD]O_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFF700, align: right"]7.74102706[/TD]
[TD]TSI30[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFBF00, align: right"]9.37360656[/TD]
[TD]Tuscan[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF5C00, align: right"]12.29670688[/TD]
[TD]C_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF001B, align: right"]15.79831953[/TD]
[TD]Baleares[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF004F, align: right"]17.31780875[/TD]
[TD]Galicia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF005E, align: right"]17.77266722[/TD]
[TD]Bulgarians[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0060, align: right"]17.82596140[/TD]
[TD]Romanians[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0064, align: right"]17.94900833[/TD]
[TD]Greek[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF006C, align: right"]18.18297280[/TD]
[TD]Extremadura[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF006E, align: right"]18.22950630[/TD]
[TD]Bulgarian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0086, align: right"]18.93919745[/TD]
[TD]Portuguese[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00A0, align: right"]19.69885530[/TD]
[TD]Murcia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00B8, align: right"]20.42285240[/TD]
[TD]Castilla_Y_Leon[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00BD, align: right"]20.55231617[/TD]
[TD]Andalucia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00BE, align: right"]20.58414195[/TD]
[TD]Spaniards[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00C5, align: right"]20.80252148[/TD]
[TD]Canarias[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00CA, align: right"]20.95075416[/TD]
[TD]French[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00CB, align: right"]20.95902908[/TD]
[TD]Cataluna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00CE, align: right"]21.05509914[/TD]
[TD]Sicilian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00D2, align: right"]21.17245616[/TD]
[TD]S_Italian_Sicilian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00D7, align: right"]21.30932190[/TD]
[TD]French[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00EA, align: right"]21.88786193[/TD]
[TD]Spanish
[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
Click to expand...

Are N_Italian and North_Italian from different areas?
 
Vallicanus said:
Are N_Italian and North_Italian from different areas?
Click to expand...

North Italian is the academic HGDP sample which consists of a small group specifically from Bergamo.

N Italian are volunteers to Dodecad from Northern Italy. In the early days of the project there was a thread where people could state where they were from...otherwise, Dienekes respected their privacy. All four grandparents had to come from that region.

From the ones I remember responding, quite a few were still from Lombardia, just further south, one was from the northeast if I remember correctly, but no one from Emilia or Romagna or Liguria that I remember.


Fwiw, the samples are very similar, with the non-academic sample being just slightly more "northern", probably because of the Veneto sample.

'K12b' spreadsheet - Google Sheets
 
Vallicanus said:
Are N_Italian and North_Italian from different areas?
Click to expand...

in regards to this ................I like to mention what I was told about it 5 plus years ago

the tested "illyrians" in that chart above had also O_Italians which is .....Other Italians ..............ie, Italians that come from areas which is not Italy today , but was Italian centuries ago, like Istria, Dalmatia, part of french riviera etc


note
TSI30 and Tuscan are both from Tuscany ...............unsure what the difference is


anyway you might see some etruscan-Illyrian noted samples moving forward in time
 
Jovialis said:
[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]Bronze_Age_Illyrians[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #8BFF00, align: right"]4.09920724[/TD]
[TD]N_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F3FF00, align: right"]7.16161993[/TD]
[TD]North_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFE00, align: right"]7.52141609[/TD]
[TD]O_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFF700, align: right"]7.74102706[/TD]
[TD]TSI30[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFBF00, align: right"]9.37360656[/TD]
[TD]Tuscan[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF5C00, align: right"]12.29670688[/TD]
[TD]C_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF001B, align: right"]15.79831953[/TD]
[TD]Baleares[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF004F, align: right"]17.31780875[/TD]
[TD]Galicia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF005E, align: right"]17.77266722[/TD]
[TD]Bulgarians[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0060, align: right"]17.82596140[/TD]
[TD]Romanians[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0064, align: right"]17.94900833[/TD]
[TD]Greek[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF006C, align: right"]18.18297280[/TD]
[TD]Extremadura[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF006E, align: right"]18.22950630[/TD]
[TD]Bulgarian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0086, align: right"]18.93919745[/TD]
[TD]Portuguese[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00A0, align: right"]19.69885530[/TD]
[TD]Murcia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00B8, align: right"]20.42285240[/TD]
[TD]Castilla_Y_Leon[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00BD, align: right"]20.55231617[/TD]
[TD]Andalucia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00BE, align: right"]20.58414195[/TD]
[TD]Spaniards[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00C5, align: right"]20.80252148[/TD]
[TD]Canarias[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00CA, align: right"]20.95075416[/TD]
[TD]French[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00CB, align: right"]20.95902908[/TD]
[TD]Cataluna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00CE, align: right"]21.05509914[/TD]
[TD]Sicilian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00D2, align: right"]21.17245616[/TD]
[TD]S_Italian_Sicilian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00D7, align: right"]21.30932190[/TD]
[TD]French[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00EA, align: right"]21.88786193[/TD]
[TD]Spanish[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
Click to expand...

which Illyrian sample is this.......waht is the sample ID ?


.......................................................................
For what it is worth
to compare with myself...............I was told by DNATribes in 2012 ....that I was Balkar ( north Caucasus ) and became North-Pannonian ( austria-hungary ) when my line entered Europe
[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH]Torziok12b
[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(61.48307595233668, 100%, 50%)"]7.31461551[/TD]
[TD]N_Italian
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(38.00269272713891, 100%, 50%)"]9.24966341
[/TD]
[TD]O_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(34.148668035958806, 100%, 50%)"]10.73141650[/TD]
[TD]North_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(22.188556906668637, 100%, 50%)"]12.22643039[/TD]
[TD]TSI30[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(9.573858167551649, 100%, 50%)"]13.80326773[/TD]
[TD]Tuscan[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(-8.120967838991902, 100%, 50%)"]16.01512098[/TD]
[TD]C_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(-10.21031602757131, 100%, 50%)"]16.27628950[/TD]
[TD]Romanians[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(-11.755798354379834, 100%, 50%)"]16.46947479[/TD]
[TD]Baleares[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(-16.465837483232434, 100%, 50%)"]17.05822969[/TD]
[TD]Galicia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(-16.609364247111557, 100%, 50%)"]17.07617053[/TD]
[TD]Bulgarian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(-16.978269809484743, 100%, 50%)"]17.12228373[/TD]
[TD]Bulgarians[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(-22.946322792858155, 100%, 50%)"]17.86829035[/TD]
[TD]Extremadura[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(-23.368928293406725, 100%, 50%)"]17.92111604[/TD]
[TD]French[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(-24.719646212945122, 100%, 50%)"]18.08995578[/TD]
[TD]French[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(-27.063393133709525, 100%, 50%)"]18.38292414[/TD]
[TD]Portuguese[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(-41.55912354305468, 100%, 50%)"]20.19489044[/TD]
[TD]Murcia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(-43.63737470394716, 100%, 50%)"]20.45467184[/TD]
[TD]Castilla_Y_Leon[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(-43.91716932646199, 100%, 50%)"]20.48964617[/TD]
[TD]Cataluna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(-44.465602482707595, 100%, 50%)"]20.55820031[/TD]
[TD]Greek[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(-46.54101716994526, 100%, 50%)"]20.81762715[/TD]
[TD]Spaniards[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(-49.005675644340414, 100%, 50%)"]21.12570946[/TD]
[TD]Canarias[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(-52.76736728908037, 100%, 50%)"]21.59592091[/TD]
[TD]Andalucia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(-53.55547816188346, 100%, 50%)"]21.69443477[/TD]
[TD]English_mixed[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(-54.24135903969528, 100%, 50%)"]21.78016988[/TD]
[TD]Spanish[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(-63.97036283053856, 100%, 50%)"]22.99629535[/TD]
[TD]Mixed_Germanic[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]



[TH="class: singleheader, colspan: 2"]Target: Torziok12b
Distance: 0.8834% / 0.88335520 | ADC: 0.25x RC
[/TH]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn"]53.2
[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]N_Italian[/TD]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn"]21.8[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]German[/TD]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn"]21.8[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]O_Italian[/TD]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn"]3.2[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]Tajiks[/TD]

[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]


[/TD]
 
torzio said:
note
TSI30 and Tuscan are both from Tuscany ...............unsure what the difference is
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TSI is a subset used by Metspalu of TSI, from unknown locality in the province of Florence, Tuscan is Tuscan HGDP, according to CEPH it's from the province of Grosseto (Colline Metallifere).


Angela said:
North Italian is the academic HGDP sample which consists of a small group specifically from Bergamo.

N Italian are volunteers to Dodecad from Northern Italy. In the early days of the project there was a thread where people could state where they were from...otherwise, Dienekes respected their privacy. All four grandparents had to come from that region.

From the ones I remember responding, quite a few were still from Lombardia, just further south, one was from the northeast if I remember correctly, but no one from Emilia or Romagna or Liguria that I remember.


Fwiw, the samples are very similar, with the non-academic sample being just slightly more "northern", probably because of the Veneto sample.

'K12b' spreadsheet - Google Sheets
Click to expand...


In N_Italian_D (N_Italian_Dodecad), based on 5 individuals, there is also at least one Friulian, to my knowledge.
 
Pax Augusta said:
TSI is a subset used by Metspalu of TSI, from unknown locality in the province of Florence, Tuscan is Tuscan HGDP, according to CEPH it's from the province of Grosseto (Colline Metallifere).





In N_Italian_D (N_Italian_Dodecad), based on 5 individuals, there is also at least one Friulian, to my knowledge.
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Yes, I know exactly who you mean. He's why they're a bit more "north" than the HGDP sample.

There are other academic sources for Northern Italy, but they were published after Dienekes stopped updating the calculator.
 
good post by michaelis from anthrogenica :good_job:
so i share it
.

Averaged HRV IA and BGR IA under assumption you'll get a fair Balkans IA centroid that way. The Sclaveni probably already had a lot of this ancestry before entering Greece IMO.

Avar Szolad for the northern Euro ancestry in the Sclaveni.

Emporiote and Balkans IA might be somewhat interchangeable here for obvious reasons. BGR IA already had quite a bit of affinity to Mycenaeans/Emporiotes anyway. There might have been a cline in antiquity from Balkans IA-like in most of the Balkans to more Mycenaean-like as you neared Greece itself.



hWAmiIw.png
 
kingjohn said:
good post by michaelis from anthrogenica :good_job:
so i share it
.

Averaged HRV IA and BGR IA under assumption you'll get a fair Balkans IA centroid that way. The Sclaveni probably already had a lot of this ancestry before entering Greece IMO.

Avar Szolad for the northern Euro ancestry in the Sclaveni.

Emporiote and Balkans IA might be somewhat interchangeable here for obvious reasons. BGR IA already had quite a bit of affinity to Mycenaeans/Emporiotes anyway. There might have been a cline in antiquity from Balkans IA-like in most of the Balkans to more Mycenaean-like as you neared Greece itself.



hWAmiIw.png
Click to expand...

Why would these be good choices for admixture?

There’s duplication in three out of the four samples , for one thing.
 
Angela said:
Why would these be good choices for admixture?

There’s duplication in three out of the four samples , for one thing.
Click to expand...


it is damn hard for me to protect his method
but since the lazaridis paper with the marathon sample is not published yet
and we dont have the danubian limes bam files of the balkan bronze age cluster yet
he took the sources that might be resonable to creat for alike sources :thinking:


his explanations:

Averaged HRV IA and BGR IA under assumption you'll get a fair Balkans IA centroid that way. The Sclaveni probably already had a lot of this ancestry before entering Greece IMO.

Avar Szolad for the northern Euro ancestry in the Sclaveni.

Emporiote and Balkans IA might be somewhat interchangeable here for obvious reasons. BGR IA already had quite a bit of affinity to Mycenaeans/Emporiotes anyway. There might have been a cline in antiquity from Balkans IA-like in most of the Balkans to more Mycenaean-like as you neared Greece itself.
 
kingjohn said:
good post by michaelis from anthrogenica :good_job:
so i share it
.

Averaged HRV IA and BGR IA under assumption you'll get a fair Balkans IA centroid that way. The Sclaveni probably already had a lot of this ancestry before entering Greece IMO.

Avar Szolad for the northern Euro ancestry in the Sclaveni.

Emporiote and Balkans IA might be somewhat interchangeable here for obvious reasons. BGR IA already had quite a bit of affinity to Mycenaeans/Emporiotes anyway. There might have been a cline in antiquity from Balkans IA-like in most of the Balkans to more Mycenaean-like as you neared Greece itself.



hWAmiIw.png
Click to expand...


Are you using the term Schlaveni as the origins of Slavs from Ukraine, Belarus and slovakia lands ................or are you adding polish Wends and Silesians ??
 
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