Were pre-Slavic Albanians like ancient Illyrians?

[Southpaw]

I checked on G25, and the closest populations to Bronze Age Urnfield from Hungary are again North Italians. This is the variation of Albanians, distance against HRV_IA, HRV_MBA, HUN_BA etc etc.

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]Progon_scaled[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D5FF00, align: right"]0.04174284[/TD]
[TD]HRV_MBA:I4331[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D7FF00, align: right"]0.04206426[/TD]
[TD]HUN_BA:I7043[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #DBFF00, align: right"]0.04297053[/TD]
[TD]HRV_EBA:I3499[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #E2FF00, align: right"]0.04423490[/TD]
[TD]HRV_IA:I3313[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFF00, align: right"]0.04999688[/TD]
[TD]HRV_MBA:I4332[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFEF00, align: right"]0.05321158[/TD]
[TD]HUN_BA:I7040[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFEA00, align: right"]0.05405847[/TD]
[TD]BGR_IA:I5769[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0065, align: right"]0.11975709[/TD]
[TD]HUN_BA:I7042[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

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[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]Albanian:ALB230[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #CDFF00, align: right"]0.04024053[/TD]
[TD]HUN_BA:I7043[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #DFFF00, align: right"]0.04364112[/TD]
[TD]HRV_IA:I3313[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #E3FF00, align: right"]0.04445961[/TD]
[TD]HRV_MBA:I4331[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #EAFF00, align: right"]0.04586628[/TD]
[TD]HRV_EBA:I3499[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FDFF00, align: right"]0.04957686[/TD]
[TD]HUN_BA:I7040[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFDE00, align: right"]0.05644252[/TD]
[TD]HRV_MBA:I4332[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFC800, align: right"]0.06086694[/TD]
[TD]BGR_IA:I5769[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF005A, align: right"]0.11771340[/TD]
[TD]HUN_BA:I7042[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

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[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]Albanian:ALB220[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F1FF00, align: right"]0.04715839[/TD]
[TD]HRV_EBA:I3499[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FAFF00, align: right"]0.04897177[/TD]
[TD]HRV_MBA:I4331[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFC00, align: right"]0.05063239[/TD]
[TD]HUN_BA:I7043[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFED00, align: right"]0.05358558[/TD]
[TD]HRV_IA:I3313[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFEC00, align: right"]0.05367028[/TD]
[TD]BGR_IA:I5769[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFE600, align: right"]0.05481267[/TD]
[TD]HRV_MBA:I4332[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFD500, align: right"]0.05816814[/TD]
[TD]HUN_BA:I7040[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0065, align: right"]0.11988536[/TD]
[TD]HUN_BA:I7042[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

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[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]Albanian:ALB213[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #DEFF00, align: right"]0.04343210[/TD]
[TD]HRV_MBA:I4331[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #E1FF00, align: right"]0.04404560[/TD]
[TD]HRV_EBA:I3499[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #E6FF00, align: right"]0.04519311[/TD]
[TD]HUN_BA:I7043[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FDFF00, align: right"]0.04954577[/TD]
[TD]HRV_IA:I3313[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFEE00, align: right"]0.05327843[/TD]
[TD]HUN_BA:I7040[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFEB00, align: right"]0.05383410[/TD]
[TD]HRV_MBA:I4332[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFB600, align: right"]0.06431498[/TD]
[TD]BGR_IA:I5769[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF007D, align: right"]0.12446384[/TD]
[TD]HUN_BA:I7042[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

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[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]Albanian:ALB212[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D6FF00, align: right"]0.04190214[/TD]
[TD]HRV_IA:I3313[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #E2FF00, align: right"]0.04437515[/TD]
[TD]BGR_IA:I5769[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F4FF00, align: right"]0.04780318[/TD]
[TD]HRV_MBA:I4331[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6FF00, align: right"]0.04831079[/TD]
[TD]HRV_EBA:I3499[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F7FF00, align: right"]0.04844422[/TD]
[TD]HUN_BA:I7043[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFDF00, align: right"]0.05633208[/TD]
[TD]HUN_BA:I7040[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFD300, align: right"]0.05853783[/TD]
[TD]HRV_MBA:I4332[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0028, align: right"]0.10780997[/TD]
[TD]HUN_BA:I7042[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

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[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]Albanian:ALB202[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #E6FF00, align: right"]0.04507262[/TD]
[TD]HUN_BA:I7043[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F1FF00, align: right"]0.04717967[/TD]
[TD]HRV_EBA:I3499[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F9FF00, align: right"]0.04881970[/TD]
[TD]HRV_MBA:I4331[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FDFF00, align: right"]0.04962902[/TD]
[TD]HRV_IA:I3313[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFDD00, align: right"]0.05659710[/TD]
[TD]HRV_MBA:I4332[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFD600, align: right"]0.05800757[/TD]
[TD]HUN_BA:I7040[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFBF00, align: right"]0.06251786[/TD]
[TD]BGR_IA:I5769[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF008D, align: right"]0.12773145[/TD]
[TD]HUN_BA:I7042[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

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[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]Albanian:ALB191[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFB00, align: right"]0.05079921[/TD]
[TD]HUN_BA:I7043[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFEB00, align: right"]0.05396271[/TD]
[TD]HRV_MBA:I4331[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFDA00, align: right"]0.05728129[/TD]
[TD]HRV_IA:I3313[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFD800, align: right"]0.05770514[/TD]
[TD]HRV_EBA:I3499[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFCA00, align: right"]0.06046557[/TD]
[TD]HRV_MBA:I4332[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFC500, align: right"]0.06129752[/TD]
[TD]HUN_BA:I7040[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFAA00, align: right"]0.06658066[/TD]
[TD]BGR_IA:I5769[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0090, align: right"]0.12825241[/TD]
[TD]HUN_BA:I7042[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

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[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]Albanian:AL98[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FCFF00, align: right"]0.04941006[/TD]
[TD]HRV_MBA:I4331[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFD00, align: right"]0.05038667[/TD]
[TD]HRV_EBA:I3499[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFEB00, align: right"]0.05393753[/TD]
[TD]HRV_MBA:I4332[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFE300, align: right"]0.05555974[/TD]
[TD]HUN_BA:I7043[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFDB00, align: right"]0.05706378[/TD]
[TD]BGR_IA:I5769[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFCD00, align: right"]0.05979540[/TD]
[TD]HUN_BA:I7040[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFC700, align: right"]0.06097549[/TD]
[TD]HRV_IA:I3313[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0073, align: right"]0.12248226[/TD]
[TD]HUN_BA:I7042[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

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[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]Albanian:AL9[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #C6FF00, align: right"]0.03891100[/TD]
[TD]HRV_MBA:I4331[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #CAFF00, align: right"]0.03965939[/TD]
[TD]HRV_EBA:I3499[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D8FF00, align: right"]0.04243513[/TD]
[TD]HUN_BA:I7043[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #E7FF00, align: right"]0.04537587[/TD]
[TD]HRV_MBA:I4332[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9FF00, align: right"]0.04563110[/TD]
[TD]HUN_BA:I7040[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #EFFF00, align: right"]0.04692789[/TD]
[TD]HRV_IA:I3313[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFD300, align: right"]0.05861273[/TD]
[TD]BGR_IA:I5769[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0067, align: right"]0.12015864[/TD]
[TD]HUN_BA:I7042[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

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[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]Albanian:AL82[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D7FF00, align: right"]0.04208465[/TD]
[TD]HRV_IA:I3313[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #EAFF00, align: right"]0.04587652[/TD]
[TD]HRV_EBA:I3499[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #EAFF00, align: right"]0.04590842[/TD]
[TD]HUN_BA:I7043[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FAFF00, align: right"]0.04899212[/TD]
[TD]HRV_MBA:I4331[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFE200, align: right"]0.05571229[/TD]
[TD]HUN_BA:I7040[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFBC00, align: right"]0.06310733[/TD]
[TD]HRV_MBA:I4332[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFA700, align: right"]0.06722324[/TD]
[TD]BGR_IA:I5769[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF008F, align: right"]0.12806479[/TD]
[TD]HUN_BA:I7042[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

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[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]Albanian:AL29[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #E2FF00, align: right"]0.04422955[/TD]
[TD]HRV_MBA:I4331[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9FF00, align: right"]0.04565361[/TD]
[TD]BGR_IA:I5769[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #EBFF00, align: right"]0.04614954[/TD]
[TD]HRV_EBA:I3499[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F2FF00, align: right"]0.04751660[/TD]
[TD]HRV_IA:I3313[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FBFF00, align: right"]0.04927117[/TD]
[TD]HUN_BA:I7043[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFF200, align: right"]0.05260969[/TD]
[TD]HRV_MBA:I4332[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFEF00, align: right"]0.05321759[/TD]
[TD]HUN_BA:I7040[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF003C, align: right"]0.11179377[/TD]
[TD]HUN_BA:I7042[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

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[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]Albanian:AL17[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D9FF00, align: right"]0.04258420[/TD]
[TD]HRV_EBA:I3499[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F3FF00, align: right"]0.04772081[/TD]
[TD]HRV_IA:I3313[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F5FF00, align: right"]0.04808358[/TD]
[TD]BGR_IA:I5769[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFA00, align: right"]0.05096044[/TD]
[TD]HUN_BA:I7043[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFA00, align: right"]0.05100093[/TD]
[TD]HRV_MBA:I4331[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFDE00, align: right"]0.05645784[/TD]
[TD]HUN_BA:I7040[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFB700, align: right"]0.06407100[/TD]
[TD]HRV_MBA:I4332[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0043, align: right"]0.11322292[/TD]
[TD]HUN_BA:I7042[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

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[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]Albanian:AL12[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #B5FF00, align: right"]0.03556740[/TD]
[TD]HRV_MBA:I4331[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #B8FF00, align: right"]0.03616644[/TD]
[TD]HRV_MBA:I4332[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D2FF00, align: right"]0.04126567[/TD]
[TD]HUN_BA:I7043[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #E2FF00, align: right"]0.04428675[/TD]
[TD]HRV_EBA:I3499[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6FF00, align: right"]0.04824068[/TD]
[TD]HRV_IA:I3313[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F9FF00, align: right"]0.04873818[/TD]
[TD]HUN_BA:I7040[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFA00, align: right"]0.05106883[/TD]
[TD]BGR_IA:I5769[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0041, align: right"]0.11283966[/TD]
[TD]HUN_BA:I7042[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

 

[Southpaw]

Scythian/Daco-Thracian samples included, comparison with Albanians/Italians/Greeks.

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]Italian_Northeast:ALP233[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #BDFF00, align: right"]0.03700051[/TD]
[TD]HUN_BA:I7043[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #BEFF00, align: right"]0.03735146[/TD]
[TD]HRV_IA:I3313[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #C7FF00, align: right"]0.03911021[/TD]
[TD]HRV_MBA:I4331[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D7FF00, align: right"]0.04219175[/TD]
[TD]HUN_BA:I7040[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #DEFF00, align: right"]0.04349603[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_HUNA198[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #EAFF00, align: right"]0.04592119[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_HUNA195[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #EAFF00, align: right"]0.04596066[/TD]
[TD]HRV_MBA:I4332[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F0FF00, align: right"]0.04708495[/TD]
[TD]HRV_EBA:I3499[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F7FF00, align: right"]0.04846588[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_MDA:scy305[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F7FF00, align: right"]0.04852042[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_MDA:scy197[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

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[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]Italian_Northeast:ALP220[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF00, align: right"]0.02998969[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_HUNA195[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #DBFF00, align: right"]0.04287336[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_HUNA197[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #EFFF00, align: right"]0.04680771[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_UKR:scy010[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFB00, align: right"]0.05083127[/TD]
[TD]HRV_MBA:I4332[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFF300, align: right"]0.05236558[/TD]
[TD]HRV_MBA:I4331[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFEB00, align: right"]0.05389843[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_HUNA194[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFE700, align: right"]0.05478101[/TD]
[TD]HUN_BA:I7043[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFD000, align: right"]0.05915212[/TD]
[TD]HUN_BA:I7040[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFAF00, align: right"]0.06574583[/TD]
[TD]HRV_IA:I3313[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFAC00, align: right"]0.06633114[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_HUNA191[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

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[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]Italian_Marche:MarABU050D[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #ACFF00, align: right"]0.03370095[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_MDA:scy305[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #B2FF00, align: right"]0.03495651[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_MDA:scy300[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #B8FF00, align: right"]0.03602548[/TD]
[TD]HRV_EBA:I3499[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #C5FF00, align: right"]0.03868351[/TD]
[TD]HRV_MBA:I4331[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D1FF00, align: right"]0.04097700[/TD]
[TD]HRV_IA:I3313[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D4FF00, align: right"]0.04160381[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_MDA:scy197[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D5FF00, align: right"]0.04170126[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_MDA:scy192[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #DAFF00, align: right"]0.04280560[/TD]
[TD]HRV_MBA:I4332[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #E0FF00, align: right"]0.04392107[/TD]
[TD]HUN_BA:I7043[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F8FF00, align: right"]0.04854649[/TD]
[TD]HUN_BA:I7040[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

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[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]Italian_Marche:MarABQ080D[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #BEFF00, align: right"]0.03720053[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_HUNA198[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #C1FF00, align: right"]0.03792640[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_MDA:scy300[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #C4FF00, align: right"]0.03834652[/TD]
[TD]HRV_EBA:I3499[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF00, align: right"]0.03995435[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_MDA:scy305[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D1FF00, align: right"]0.04102256[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_MDA:scy192[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #DAFF00, align: right"]0.04280541[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_MDA:scy197[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #DFFF00, align: right"]0.04368147[/TD]
[TD]BGR_IA:I5769[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #E0FF00, align: right"]0.04400958[/TD]
[TD]HRV_IA:I3313[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FDFF00, align: right"]0.04967184[/TD]
[TD]HRV_MBA:I4331[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFF500, align: right"]0.05194421[/TD]
[TD]HUN_BA:I7040[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

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[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]Italian_Marche:MarABP050D[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #B6FF00, align: right"]0.03576535[/TD]
[TD]HRV_EBA:I3499[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #C7FF00, align: right"]0.03898669[/TD]
[TD]BGR_IA:I5769[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D6FF00, align: right"]0.04199255[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_MDA:scy197[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #DAFF00, align: right"]0.04278064[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_MDA:scy192[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #DAFF00, align: right"]0.04281614[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_MDA:scy300[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #E7FF00, align: right"]0.04528011[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_HUNA198[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F8FF00, align: right"]0.04865879[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_MDA:scy305[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FAFF00, align: right"]0.04909046[/TD]
[TD]HRV_MBA:I4331[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FCFF00, align: right"]0.04948779[/TD]
[TD]HRV_IA:I3313[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFC00, align: right"]0.05056582[/TD]
[TD]HUN_BA:I7043[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

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[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]Italian_Lombardy:BGD31[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #9DFF00, align: right"]0.03075272[/TD]
[TD]HRV_IA:I3313[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #B1FF00, align: right"]0.03473685[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_HUNA198[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF00, align: right"]0.03999570[/TD]
[TD]HUN_BA:I7040[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D2FF00, align: right"]0.04123596[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_MDA:scy197[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D4FF00, align: right"]0.04163599[/TD]
[TD]HRV_EBA:I3499[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #DEFF00, align: right"]0.04353767[/TD]
[TD]HRV_MBA:I4331[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #E5FF00, align: right"]0.04499454[/TD]
[TD]HUN_BA:I7043[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #EEFF00, align: right"]0.04667088[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_MDA:scy300[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F2FF00, align: right"]0.04751010[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_MDA:scy305[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F3FF00, align: right"]0.04773667[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_MDA:scy192[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

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[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]Italian_Lombardy:BGD301[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #96FF00, align: right"]0.02936488[/TD]
[TD]HRV_IA:I3313[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #C5FF00, align: right"]0.03859379[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_MDA:scy197[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #C5FF00, align: right"]0.03871935[/TD]
[TD]HUN_BA:I7040[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #C8FF00, align: right"]0.03920545[/TD]
[TD]HRV_MBA:I4331[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #C9FF00, align: right"]0.03931694[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_HUNA198[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #C9FF00, align: right"]0.03949899[/TD]
[TD]HUN_BA:I7043[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #CFFF00, align: right"]0.04050400[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_MDA:scy300[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #DBFF00, align: right"]0.04293146[/TD]
[TD]HRV_MBA:I4332[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #E1FF00, align: right"]0.04411640[/TD]
[TD]HRV_EBA:I3499[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #E8FF00, align: right"]0.04539897[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_MDA:scy305[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

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[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]Italian_Lombardy:ALP288[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #89FF00, align: right"]0.02681640[/TD]
[TD]HRV_MBA:I4331[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF00, align: right"]0.02993302[/TD]
[TD]HRV_IA:I3313[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #A3FF00, align: right"]0.03204313[/TD]
[TD]HRV_EBA:I3499[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #A9FF00, align: right"]0.03320081[/TD]
[TD]HUN_BA:I7043[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #ADFF00, align: right"]0.03393379[/TD]
[TD]HUN_BA:I7040[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #B2FF00, align: right"]0.03489283[/TD]
[TD]HRV_MBA:I4332[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #C9FF00, align: right"]0.03936211[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_MDA:scy197[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D7FF00, align: right"]0.04214363[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_MDA:scy192[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D8FF00, align: right"]0.04232676[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_MDA:scy300[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D9FF00, align: right"]0.04257178[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_HUNA198[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

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[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]Italian_Liguria:ALP099[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #B3FF00, align: right"]0.03503135[/TD]
[TD]HRV_IA:I3313[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #B9FF00, align: right"]0.03630896[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_MDA:scy197[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #BAFF00, align: right"]0.03650915[/TD]
[TD]HUN_BA:I7043[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #BDFF00, align: right"]0.03703327[/TD]
[TD]HRV_EBA:I3499[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #CDFF00, align: right"]0.04012500[/TD]
[TD]HUN_BA:I7040[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D2FF00, align: right"]0.04122579[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_HUNA198[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D6FF00, align: right"]0.04202412[/TD]
[TD]HRV_MBA:I4331[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D8FF00, align: right"]0.04238543[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_MDA:scy305[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #DCFF00, align: right"]0.04307786[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_MDA:scy300[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #EEFF00, align: right"]0.04658284[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_MDA:scy192[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

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[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]Greek_Thessaly:GreeceNE162[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #9FFF00, align: right"]0.03113344[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_MDA:scy305[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #AAFF00, align: right"]0.03333998[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_MDA:scy192[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #B1FF00, align: right"]0.03478528[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_MDA:scy300[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #B4FF00, align: right"]0.03520684[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_MDA:scy197[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #BBFF00, align: right"]0.03664499[/TD]
[TD]HRV_MBA:I4331[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #C1FF00, align: right"]0.03784152[/TD]
[TD]HRV_EBA:I3499[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #C2FF00, align: right"]0.03805954[/TD]
[TD]HRV_IA:I3313[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D0FF00, align: right"]0.04085618[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_HUNA198[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D4FF00, align: right"]0.04160030[/TD]
[TD]HUN_BA:I7043[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F5FF00, align: right"]0.04808501[/TD]
[TD]BGR_IA:I5769[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

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[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]Greek_Thessaly:GreeceNE144[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #B5FF00, align: right"]0.03554727[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_MDA:scy192[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #C2FF00, align: right"]0.03805104[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_MDA:scy305[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #C6FF00, align: right"]0.03875530[/TD]
[TD]HRV_IA:I3313[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #C7FF00, align: right"]0.03900030[/TD]
[TD]HRV_EBA:I3499[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #C8FF00, align: right"]0.03924400[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_HUNA198[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #CAFF00, align: right"]0.03960619[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_MDA:scy300[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D0FF00, align: right"]0.04082925[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_MDA:scy197[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #EBFF00, align: right"]0.04607515[/TD]
[TD]HUN_BA:I7043[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F5FF00, align: right"]0.04799965[/TD]
[TD]HRV_MBA:I4331[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFEB00, align: right"]0.05391876[/TD]
[TD]HUN_BA:I7040[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

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[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]Greek_Thessaly:GreeceNE126[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #ABFF00, align: right"]0.03346811[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_MDA:scy305[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #B1FF00, align: right"]0.03464434[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_MDA:scy192[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #C2FF00, align: right"]0.03810834[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_MDA:scy300[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #C7FF00, align: right"]0.03900930[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_MDA:scy197[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #CAFF00, align: right"]0.03953000[/TD]
[TD]HRV_EBA:I3499[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #CFFF00, align: right"]0.04064726[/TD]
[TD]HRV_MBA:I4331[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #E5FF00, align: right"]0.04498005[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_HUNA198[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #E6FF00, align: right"]0.04518012[/TD]
[TD]HRV_IA:I3313[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F3FF00, align: right"]0.04768623[/TD]
[TD]HUN_BA:I7043[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FEFF00, align: right"]0.04985191[/TD]
[TD]HRV_MBA:I4332[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

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[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]Greek_Peloponnese:GreeceNE252[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #B3FF00, align: right"]0.03511796[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_MDA:scy192[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #C5FF00, align: right"]0.03871536[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_MDA:scy305[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D8FF00, align: right"]0.04227321[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_MDA:scy300[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FBFF00, align: right"]0.04915427[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_MDA:scy197[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFF00, align: right"]0.05004342[/TD]
[TD]BGR_IA:I5769[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFF00, align: right"]0.05009104[/TD]
[TD]HRV_EBA:I3499[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFDF00, align: right"]0.05619395[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_HUNA198[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFDB00, align: right"]0.05701826[/TD]
[TD]HRV_MBA:I4331[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFD800, align: right"]0.05761956[/TD]
[TD]HRV_IA:I3313[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFD400, align: right"]0.05834992[/TD]
[TD]HUN_BA:I7043[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

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[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]Greek_Peloponnese:GreeceNE231[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #C5FF00, align: right"]0.03869072[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_MDA:scy192[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #E2FF00, align: right"]0.04431649[/TD]
[TD]BGR_IA:I5769[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #EFFF00, align: right"]0.04681251[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_MDA:scy300[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F5FF00, align: right"]0.04800494[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_MDA:scy305[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFE00, align: right"]0.05025690[/TD]
[TD]HRV_EBA:I3499[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFEA00, align: right"]0.05404113[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_MDA:scy197[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFE800, align: right"]0.05446469[/TD]
[TD]HRV_MBA:I4331[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFE400, align: right"]0.05534274[/TD]
[TD]Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2:I8215[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFE000, align: right"]0.05612261[/TD]
[TD]GRC_Mycenaean:I9041[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFDD00, align: right"]0.05675124[/TD]
[TD]HRV_MBA:I4332[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

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[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]Greek_Peloponnese:GreeceNE209[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #C8FF00, align: right"]0.03920611[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_MDA:scy192[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #CEFF00, align: right"]0.04045514[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_MDA:scy197[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #CFFF00, align: right"]0.04059236[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_MDA:scy300[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D1FF00, align: right"]0.04092612[/TD]
[TD]BGR_IA:I5769[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D5FF00, align: right"]0.04173955[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_MDA:scy305[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #E2FF00, align: right"]0.04424900[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_HUNA198[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFF00, align: right"]0.05006332[/TD]
[TD]HRV_EBA:I3499[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFF200, align: right"]0.05255090[/TD]
[TD]Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2:I8215[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFEA00, align: right"]0.05405471[/TD]
[TD]HRV_MBA:I4331[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFE500, align: right"]0.05500922[/TD]
[TD]HUN_BA:I7043[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

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[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]Albanian:ALB230[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #C7FF00, align: right"]0.03895529[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_MDA:scy305[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #CDFF00, align: right"]0.04024053[/TD]
[TD]HUN_BA:I7043[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D2FF00, align: right"]0.04108558[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_MDA:scy192[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D8FF00, align: right"]0.04233119[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_MDA:scy197[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #DFFF00, align: right"]0.04364112[/TD]
[TD]HRV_IA:I3313[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #E3FF00, align: right"]0.04445961[/TD]
[TD]HRV_MBA:I4331[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #EAFF00, align: right"]0.04586628[/TD]
[TD]HRV_EBA:I3499[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #EBFF00, align: right"]0.04606065[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_MDA:scy300[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #ECFF00, align: right"]0.04619692[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_HUNA198[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FDFF00, align: right"]0.04957686[/TD]
[TD]HUN_BA:I7040[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

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[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]Albanian:ALB220[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #CFFF00, align: right"]0.04060907[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_MDA:scy305[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #DFFF00, align: right"]0.04372552[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_MDA:scy192[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #E6FF00, align: right"]0.04504604[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_MDA:scy197[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F1FF00, align: right"]0.04715839[/TD]
[TD]HRV_EBA:I3499[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F5FF00, align: right"]0.04796299[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_MDA:scy300[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FAFF00, align: right"]0.04897177[/TD]
[TD]HRV_MBA:I4331[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFC00, align: right"]0.05063239[/TD]
[TD]HUN_BA:I7043[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFED00, align: right"]0.05358558[/TD]
[TD]HRV_IA:I3313[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFEC00, align: right"]0.05367028[/TD]
[TD]BGR_IA:I5769[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFE600, align: right"]0.05481267[/TD]
[TD]HRV_MBA:I4332[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

---

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]Albanian:ALB213[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #C2FF00, align: right"]0.03798192[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_MDA:scy305[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D0FF00, align: right"]0.04077521[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_MDA:scy192[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #DEFF00, align: right"]0.04343210[/TD]
[TD]HRV_MBA:I4331[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #E1FF00, align: right"]0.04404560[/TD]
[TD]HRV_EBA:I3499[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #E6FF00, align: right"]0.04511488[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_MDA:scy197[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #E6FF00, align: right"]0.04519311[/TD]
[TD]HUN_BA:I7043[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #EBFF00, align: right"]0.04603481[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_MDA:scy300[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #EEFF00, align: right"]0.04669203[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_HUNA195[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FDFF00, align: right"]0.04954577[/TD]
[TD]HRV_IA:I3313[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFEE00, align: right"]0.05327843[/TD]
[TD]HUN_BA:I7040[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

---

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]Albanian:ALB212[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #B4FF00, align: right"]0.03536115[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_HUNA198[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #B7FF00, align: right"]0.03593386[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_MDA:scy197[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #C9FF00, align: right"]0.03931799[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_MDA:scy305[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D5FF00, align: right"]0.04179578[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_MDA:scy192[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D6FF00, align: right"]0.04190214[/TD]
[TD]HRV_IA:I3313[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D8FF00, align: right"]0.04230333[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_MDA:scy300[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #E2FF00, align: right"]0.04437515[/TD]
[TD]BGR_IA:I5769[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F4FF00, align: right"]0.04780318[/TD]
[TD]HRV_MBA:I4331[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6FF00, align: right"]0.04831079[/TD]
[TD]HRV_EBA:I3499[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F7FF00, align: right"]0.04844422[/TD]
[TD]HUN_BA:I7043[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

---

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]Albanian:ALB202[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #C0FF00, align: right"]0.03771876[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_MDA:scy192[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #CBFF00, align: right"]0.03971744[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_MDA:scy305[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #DCFF00, align: right"]0.04310465[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_MDA:scy197[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #E6FF00, align: right"]0.04507262[/TD]
[TD]HUN_BA:I7043[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F1FF00, align: right"]0.04717967[/TD]
[TD]HRV_EBA:I3499[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F2FF00, align: right"]0.04741590[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_MDA:scy300[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F9FF00, align: right"]0.04881970[/TD]
[TD]HRV_MBA:I4331[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FDFF00, align: right"]0.04962902[/TD]
[TD]HRV_IA:I3313[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FEFF00, align: right"]0.04976376[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_HUNA195[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFEB00, align: right"]0.05400996[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_HUNA198[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

---

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]Albanian:ALB191[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #E8FF00, align: right"]0.04547208[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_MDA:scy192[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #EBFF00, align: right"]0.04610658[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_MDA:scy305[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #EEFF00, align: right"]0.04658423[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_HUNA195[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F7FF00, align: right"]0.04844274[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_MDA:scy197[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFB00, align: right"]0.05079921[/TD]
[TD]HUN_BA:I7043[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFEB00, align: right"]0.05396271[/TD]
[TD]HRV_MBA:I4331[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFE300, align: right"]0.05557241[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_MDA:scy300[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFDA00, align: right"]0.05728129[/TD]
[TD]HRV_IA:I3313[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFD800, align: right"]0.05770514[/TD]
[TD]HRV_EBA:I3499[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFD300, align: right"]0.05859958[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_HUNA198[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

---

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]Albanian:AL98[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #BDFF00, align: right"]0.03705477[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_MDA:scy192[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #E4FF00, align: right"]0.04470802[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_MDA:scy305[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FCFF00, align: right"]0.04941006[/TD]
[TD]HRV_MBA:I4331[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FEFF00, align: right"]0.04972554[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_MDA:scy197[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFD00, align: right"]0.05038667[/TD]
[TD]HRV_EBA:I3499[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFF800, align: right"]0.05146569[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_MDA:scy300[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFF100, align: right"]0.05272415[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_HUNA195[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFEB00, align: right"]0.05393753[/TD]
[TD]HRV_MBA:I4332[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFE300, align: right"]0.05555974[/TD]
[TD]HUN_BA:I7043[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFDB00, align: right"]0.05706378[/TD]
[TD]BGR_IA:I5769[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

---

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]Albanian:AL9[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #ADFF00, align: right"]0.03391585[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_MDA:scy305[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #C6FF00, align: right"]0.03891100[/TD]
[TD]HRV_MBA:I4331[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #CAFF00, align: right"]0.03965939[/TD]
[TD]HRV_EBA:I3499[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #CFFF00, align: right"]0.04056472[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_MDA:scy192[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #CFFF00, align: right"]0.04058145[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_MDA:scy300[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D7FF00, align: right"]0.04211000[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_MDA:scy197[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D8FF00, align: right"]0.04243513[/TD]
[TD]HUN_BA:I7043[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #E7FF00, align: right"]0.04537587[/TD]
[TD]HRV_MBA:I4332[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9FF00, align: right"]0.04563110[/TD]
[TD]HUN_BA:I7040[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #EAFF00, align: right"]0.04583752[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_HUNA195[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

---

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]Albanian:AL82[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #B4FF00, align: right"]0.03530783[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_MDA:scy305[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D0FF00, align: right"]0.04073868[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_MDA:scy197[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D7FF00, align: right"]0.04208465[/TD]
[TD]HRV_IA:I3313[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #E1FF00, align: right"]0.04403755[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_MDA:scy192[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #E7FF00, align: right"]0.04534482[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_MDA:scy300[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #EAFF00, align: right"]0.04587652[/TD]
[TD]HRV_EBA:I3499[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #EAFF00, align: right"]0.04590842[/TD]
[TD]HUN_BA:I7043[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F2FF00, align: right"]0.04743349[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_HUNA198[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FAFF00, align: right"]0.04899212[/TD]
[TD]HRV_MBA:I4331[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFF300, align: right"]0.05239848[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_HUNA195[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

---

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]Albanian:AL29[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #ADFF00, align: right"]0.03390347[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_MDA:scy192[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #C7FF00, align: right"]0.03895840[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_MDA:scy305[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #CAFF00, align: right"]0.03953480[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_MDA:scy197[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF00, align: right"]0.04000910[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_HUNA198[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF00, align: right"]0.04002407[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_MDA:scy300[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #E2FF00, align: right"]0.04422955[/TD]
[TD]HRV_MBA:I4331[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9FF00, align: right"]0.04565361[/TD]
[TD]BGR_IA:I5769[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #EBFF00, align: right"]0.04614954[/TD]
[TD]HRV_EBA:I3499[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F2FF00, align: right"]0.04751660[/TD]
[TD]HRV_IA:I3313[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FBFF00, align: right"]0.04927117[/TD]
[TD]HUN_BA:I7043[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

---

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]Albanian:AL17[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #CFFF00, align: right"]0.04054794[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_MDA:scy305[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D3FF00, align: right"]0.04129247[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_HUNA198[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D9FF00, align: right"]0.04253988[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_MDA:scy197[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D9FF00, align: right"]0.04258420[/TD]
[TD]HRV_EBA:I3499[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #EDFF00, align: right"]0.04656281[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_MDA:scy192[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #EEFF00, align: right"]0.04676235[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_MDA:scy300[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F3FF00, align: right"]0.04772081[/TD]
[TD]HRV_IA:I3313[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F5FF00, align: right"]0.04808358[/TD]
[TD]BGR_IA:I5769[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFA00, align: right"]0.05096044[/TD]
[TD]HUN_BA:I7043[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFA00, align: right"]0.05100093[/TD]
[TD]HRV_MBA:I4331[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

---

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]Albanian:AL12[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #B5FF00, align: right"]0.03556740[/TD]
[TD]HRV_MBA:I4331[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #B8FF00, align: right"]0.03616644[/TD]
[TD]HRV_MBA:I4332[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #C1FF00, align: right"]0.03791560[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_MDA:scy192[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D2FF00, align: right"]0.04126567[/TD]
[TD]HUN_BA:I7043[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #DEFF00, align: right"]0.04347306[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_MDA:scy197[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #E2FF00, align: right"]0.04428675[/TD]
[TD]HRV_EBA:I3499[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #EAFF00, align: right"]0.04581340[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_MDA:scy305[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #EEFF00, align: right"]0.04670566[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_MDA:scy300[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6FF00, align: right"]0.04824068[/TD]
[TD]HRV_IA:I3313[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F9FF00, align: right"]0.04873818[/TD]
[TD]HUN_BA:I7040[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

---

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]Progon_scaled[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #C9FF00, align: right"]0.03943402[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_MDA:scy192[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #CEFF00, align: right"]0.04031992[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_MDA:scy197[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D5FF00, align: right"]0.04174284[/TD]
[TD]HRV_MBA:I4331[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D7FF00, align: right"]0.04206426[/TD]
[TD]HUN_BA:I7043[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #DBFF00, align: right"]0.04297053[/TD]
[TD]HRV_EBA:I3499[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #E0FF00, align: right"]0.04392579[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_MDA:scy305[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #E2FF00, align: right"]0.04423490[/TD]
[TD]HRV_IA:I3313[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #E3FF00, align: right"]0.04456539[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_MDA:scy300[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #E7FF00, align: right"]0.04535930[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_HUNA198[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFF00, align: right"]0.04999688[/TD]
[TD]HRV_MBA:I4332[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

 

[Southpaw]

I believe that Albanians are a mix of Illyrians, Thracians and Greek/Epirotes with a hint of Slavic (shifting them more North) with some variations. This is my guess. Let's wait and see tested bones.

 

[Angela]

Most of their southern pull is caused by natives just like most of their northern pull is caused by Slavs but not all of it.

Those "natives", by the time of the Slavic invasions, had a lot of Caucasus.

 

[kingdavid]

Those "natives", by the time of the Slavic invasions, had a lot of Caucasus.

maybe
iran neolithic wave

a full Bulgarian results :

east europe : 37% ( i wasn't far )
southeast europe 26%
iberian 13%
asia minor : 20%
trace: <2% aschenazi
<2% west middle east

 

[Regio X]

maybe
iran neolithic wave
a full Bulgarian results :
east europe : 37% ( i wasn't far )
southeast europe 26%
iberian 13%
asia minor : 20%
trace: <2% aschenazi
<2% west middle east

Imo one of the problems of myOrigins is that the results may vary too much in people from the same ethnicity. For example, compare mine and my uncle's.
(In my case it "inflates" this East Euro component.)

Mine (%):
Southeast Euro: 44;
British Isles: 19;
Iberia: 18;
East Euro: 10;
Scandinavia: 6;
Ashkenazi: <2.

Uncle's:
West and Central Euro: 58;
Southeast Euro: 42.

Again, same ethnicity.

While 23andMe gives me some "Central Euro" % (French&German) - most part of it is probably shared ancestry -, it gives me 0.7% of East Euro only, 0% of Scandinavia and British, and 3.7% of "Iberia"... It seems more accurate.

Let's see if myOrigins becomes really better in the next version, which will be released soon.

 

[kingdavid]

Imo one of the problems of myOrigins is that the results may vary too much in people from the same ethnicity. For example, compare mine and my uncle's.
(In my case it "inflates" this East Euro component.)
Mine (%):
Southeast Euro: 44;
British Isles: 19;
Iberia: 18;
East Euro: 10;
Scandinavia: 6;
Ashkenazi: <2.
Uncle's:
West and Central Euro: 58;
Southeast Euro: 42.
Again, same ethnicity.
While 23andMe gives me some "Central Euro" % (French&German) - most part of it is probably shared ancestry -, it gives me 0.7% of East Euro only, 0% of Scandinavia and British, and 3.7% of "Iberia"... It seems more accurate.
Let's see if myOrigins becomes really better in the next version, which will be released soon.

i surely hope so
but i can give you 2 more full bulgarians who score above 35% east europe ......
bulgarians are called south slavs for a reason...
this thread is on albanians
and i truly don't understand why they push here the south theory here on bulgarians
they are regular balkan people who cluster with slav -macedonians and romanians
nothing more nothing less......

 

[Duarte]

Imo one of the problems of myOrigins is that the results may vary too much in people from the same ethnicity. For example, compare mine and my uncle's.
(In my case it "inflates" this East Euro component.)
Mine (%):
Southeast Euro: 44;
British Isles: 19;
Iberia: 18;
East Euro: 10;
Scandinavia: 6;
Ashkenazi: <2.
Uncle's:
West and Central Euro: 58;
Southeast Euro: 42.
Again, same ethnicity.
While 23andMe gives me some "Central Euro" % (French&German) - most part of it is probably shared ancestry -, it gives me 0.7% of East Euro only, 0% of Scandinavia and British, and 3.7% of "Iberia"... It seems more accurate.
Let's see if myOrigins becomes really better in the next version, which will be released soon.

Hello Regio. What FTDNA’s MyOrigins tells you about your mother or your father. My parents were cousins, my grandparents were also and like this successively. This result is of a paternal or maternal uncle? Is your father ethnically similar to you? My mother was a little bit Spanish.

 

[Dema]

Dema never tires of being wrong.

R 50 is, according to him, based on his yDna alone, from what I can tell, which absolutely couldn’t have arrived during the Bronze Age or with Greek speakers, again according to him, a Phoenician.

I think not.
K13

Distance to:	R50_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial
4.11305239	Greek_Chios
4.84214054	Greek_Dodecanese
5.85382781	Calabria
6.25883376	Greek_Symi_Island
6.80722410	Malta
7.26784012	Sicily
7.87770906	East_Sicilian
7.93800353	Campania
8.42941872	Central_Greek
9.38504662	Turk_Cypriot
9.50236286	Apulia
9.56210228	Sephardic_Jewish
10.03718586	Greek_Andros_Island
10.17528869	Basilicata
10.45515662	Molise
10.88114424	Ashkenazi
11.17079675	Abruzzo
11.26311680	Algerian_Jewish
11.82692268	Italian_Jewish
12.34161254	Turk_Crete
12.38046849	Cyprian
12.38046849	Greek_Cypriot
12.41929145	Greek_Cappadocian
12.70745451	Tunisian_Jewish
12.91665978	Greek_Macedonia_Thrace

Dodecad

Distance to:	R50_Imperial_Era_Centocelle_Necropolis
3.64590181	Greek_Crete
4.67848598	Italy_Calabria
6.36826240	Italy_Campania
6.86542533	Italy_Sicily
7.20798862	Ashkenazy_Jews
7.30781773	Ashkenazi
8.16690884	Sephardic_Jews
8.19503557	Italy_Apulia
9.06851662	Italy_Abruzzo
11.59129846	Greek
12.01711280	Morocco_Jews
12.27131615	Crimean_Tatar_Coast
14.40188731	Italy_Marche
14.55815661	Italy_Lazio
14.67172110	Greek_Cappadocia
14.91652775	Turk_West_BlackSea
15.63521986	Nusayri_Turkey
15.66586097	Cypriots
15.66697482	Turk_Central_West
16.57446228	Turk_Northwest
16.65624207	Turk_Southwest
16.72525635	Turk_Anatolia
17.04039025	Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
17.36559818	Turk_Central_East
17.78656797	Italy_Romagna

So, Sample 50 was NOT, repeat NOT, a Phoenician, or, as they would have been referred to at that time a Syrian.
Dema was once again completely and utterly wrong.

Now, if he had bothered to carefully read the Antonio et al paper, he would have seen that some of the samples do plot in Anatolia and a few perhaps in the Levant.

SO WHAT?

Rome was the capital and biggest city of the Empire until it started to decline. Merchants, traders, envoys from all over the known world came to Rome. Some stayed, some intermarried and blended with the locals. Some, even if they stayed for a generation of two, did not, just as, for example, the Ashkenazim lived in various European countries for hundreds of years without becoming one of the locals. It is impossible to know exact percentages.

What we know from Antonio et al is that the “tail into the Levant” disappeared toward the end of the Empire. As Rome declined, many of the foreigners left, others, being urban dwellers, didn’t survive very well when Rome declined and then fell. Some had blended into the local population, with their signature diluted out of existence.
We’re not talking about simple people living out of their carts or in little mud huts who rarely strayed more than a few miles from home. We’re talking about an empire with people constantly on the move. You can’t deduce that because you find a body from place X in Rome that that person’s descendants were even with him or her and remained to become part of the local population. If that were the case, that “tail into the Levant” wouldn’t have disappeared.

Dear Angela, i never said sample R50 is Phoenician In post where i first mentioned this samples i said:

For example let me show you two Phoenician Canaanite samples which assimilated into Romans:

Therefore i never said they are Phoenicians but rather that they were most likely Canaanites/Phoenicians and for sure of previous Semitic origin assimilated into Romans.
I dont consider samples R50 neither R1283 Phoenicians neither Semites and i never said that. I consider them Romans and i said that. However obviously assimilated into Romans with previous Semitic and most likely Canaanite/Phoenician origin.
I dont deny that these two samples could arrive in Italy with Hellenic identity and then assimilate into Romans.
But no mater did they arrive with Greek colonies or directly assimilated into Romans, they are of undoubtful previous Semitic and most likely Canaanite/Phoenician origin.
They could have easily mix with Greeks and Romans and in few generations produce these autosomal results, its clear that they were Romans with Levantine and Greek admix and with Phoenician Y-DNA.

Now i hope you do understand that sample R50 regarding modern living population has its only so far identified Y-DNA relatives among Lebanese and Egyptians with TMRCA of 3100 ybp - https://www.yfull.com/tree/J-Y134194/ So far as we know J2-M205>Y134194 does not exist in Greece among modern population. But only in Lebanon and Egypt. And now found among Ancient Romans, therefore he is most likely of direct Phoenician paternal origin. But again let me repat, J2-M205, is more diverse and is of more higher percentage in Greece then in Italy and its clear that Greeks involved into this Mediterranean cluster much earlier then Italics, at around 1000 BCE most likely somewhere around Cyprus.

There is almost no chance that J2-M205 samples arrived during Bronze Age. There is no J2-M205 European Bronze Age samples. Even me as J2-M205 to claim something like that would be a wishful thinking so i rather hold for facts and go step by step J2-M205 conquered Levant In EBA and most likely earliest with Phoenicians 800 BCE started to spread towards Mediterranean Sea. Let me repeat J2-M205 has TMRCA 5900 ybp, and oldest aDNA in Levant 4500 ybp and Phoenician Sidon 3700 ybp. R50 matches Y-aDNA in EBA Levant with distance 5900 YBP and modern Egyptians and Lebanese at distance 3100 ybp. So unlike these easy changeable autosomal traits, very solid Y-DNA proves with great evidences in this case.

Now let’s turn to sample R1283, which Dema somehow didn’t notice is dated AFTER the time of the Roman Empire.
Eurogenes K13

Distance to:	R1283_Lazio_Rome_Medieval_Italy
6.29303583	West_Sicilian
7.49569877	Tuscan
7.84967515	Lazio
7.86441352	Marche
8.02215682	Romagna
8.40445120	Umbria
8.50584505	FrenchCorsica
8.87858097	Abruzzo
9.18773095	Greek_Western-Thrace
9.33910060	Molise
9.99226701	Basilicata
10.02431045	Albanian_south_Albania
10.15925194	Apulia
10.26079919	Vlach_Central-Macedonia
10.26599727	Tuscany
10.69777547	East_Sicilian
10.84585174	Albanian_Albania
10.84985253	Greek_Thessaly
11.11996403	Albanian_north_Albania
11.25952486	Albanian_Macedonia
11.45631703	Emilia
11.47601847	GR_Peloponese
11.49283255	Albanian
11.50075650	Campania
11.64639858	Central_Greek

I don’t see a single solitary person from the Near East there, but interestingly enough I see Albanians.

Now Dodecad…

Distance to:	R1283_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
2.87198851	Italy_Marche
4.18285716	Italy_Lazio
4.48059148	Italy_Romagna
6.91392002	Italy_Tuscany
7.26884665	Italy_Abruzzo
7.32496526	France_Corsica
8.70709200	Italy_Emilia
9.06752039	Italy_Campania
9.26748456	Italy_Liguria
9.58004321	Italy_Apulia
10.16859012	Italy_Sicily
10.57289459	Greek
10.69305850	Albanian_Kosovo
11.79293009	Albanian_North
12.04364636	Italy_Lombardy
12.38184712	Italy_Calabria
12.64299253	Italy_Piedmont
12.68759463	Italy_Veneto
13.48319324	Turk_Macedonia
14.16912488	Ashkenazi
14.20933623	Italy_FriuliVG
14.28690659	Turk_Greece
14.70096595	Ashkenazy_Jews
15.75807452	Swiss_Italian
16.11530639	Greek_Crete

Well, well, even closer to Albanians.

This should be an object lesson. If some people are so ignorant about population genetics that they don’t freaking know you can’t determine ethnicity solely on yDna, and don’t know the autosomal or ethnic identity of a person about whom they wish to express opinion, then DON’T express an opinion. Find another hobby; you have no business getting into discussions about population genetics.

Also, people should stop making such asinine assertions as that all J2-M410 came from the Levant during the Empire. How clueless can you be?

I didnt say all J2-M410 arrive from Levant during the Empire, but rather J2-M205. By all evidences it could be earliest of some kind of Phoenician or hellenised Phoenician origin at 800 BCE, but i doubt R50 is so old, he is most likely of after Punic Wars.

As i said in my earlier posts J2-M205 is very very Mediterranean haplogroup with uncanny Canaanite and Levantine signature.
There was big shift of genetics in Bronze Age Levant (confirmed by aDNA). And as it seems many J haplotypes of which for now we have confirmed only J1 and J2-M205 have replaced earlier Neolithic and Chalcolithic mostly T1 and E1b lines in Early Bronze Age from direction of Zagros mountains, most likely by Zagros natives as there we find earlier similar haplotypes since Neolithic (all confirmed by aDNA).

By known history Greeks mixed with Phoenicians in Cyprus already in 1000 BCE, most likely for the first time starting to roll this Mediterranean admix. Italians joined a bit later, first by Greek colonies influence, then by Phoenician and Carthaginian influence and in the end by Roman Empire and Mediterranean connection.


I am very busy and indeed i found new hobby, but i still like to read about these things. I see that you wrote a lot of things in another post which i will try to take time and reply tomorrow : ) Best regards until then !

 

[Dema]

I believe that Albanians are a mix of Illyrians, Thracians and Greek/Epirotes with a hint of Slavic (shifting them more North) with some variations. This is my guess. Let's wait and see tested bones.

I would say Albanians are mostly mix of Bronze Age Indo-Europeans, Anatolian Neolithic, Iron Age Mediterranean, and minor Middle Ages Slavic, Norman, Saxon, etc.

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[Regio X]

Hello Regio. What FTDNA’s MyOrigins tells you about your mother or your father. My parents were cousins, my grandparents were also and like this successively. This result is of a paternal or maternal uncle? Is your father ethnically similar to you? My mother was a little bit Spanish.

Hi fellow Duarte. It's my maternal uncle. My main goal was figuring out my maternal grandfather's lineage, so I tested him.
My parents tested only in 23andMe, not in FTDNA (I've tested in both though). I did upload their 23andMe results to FTDNA, however, myOrigins is blocked for them. Unblocking is charged, and I confess I have no interest in paying just to know their myOrigins' results. On the other hand, FamilyFinder is free.
I've also uploaded their results to MyHeritage time ago, and they're very different. IIRC my mom got something abt. 50% Balkan in there. Lol Nonsense.

Yes, my parents belong to the same "cluster" (N. Italian). Mother is full Venetian in ancestry. Father, 75% Venetian and 25% Lombard.

 

[Angela]

Dear Angela, i never said sample R50 is Phoenician In post where i first mentioned this samples i said:


Therefore i never said they are Phoenicians but rather that they were most likely Canaanites/Phoenicians and for sure of previous Semitic origin assimilated into Romans.
I dont consider samples R50 neither R1283 Phoenicians neither Semites and i never said that. I consider them Romans and i said that. However obviously assimilated into Romans with previous Semitic and most likely Canaanite/Phoenician origin.
I dont deny that these two samples could arrive in Italy with Hellenic identity and then assimilate into Romans.
But no mater did they arrive with Greek colonies or directly assimilated into Romans, they are of undoubtful previous Semitic and most likely Canaanite/Phoenician origin.
They could have easily mix with Greeks and Romans and in few generations produce these autosomal results, its clear that they were Romans with Levantine and Greek admix and with Phoenician Y-DNA.

Now i hope you do understand that sample R50 regarding modern living population has its only so far identified Y-DNA relatives among Lebanese and Egyptians with TMRCA of 3100 ybp - https://www.yfull.com/tree/J-Y134194/ So far as we know J2-M205>Y134194 does not exist in Greece among modern population. But only in Lebanon and Egypt. And now found among Ancient Romans, therefore he is most likely of direct Phoenician paternal origin. But again let me repat, J2-M205, is more diverse and is of more higher percentage in Greece then in Italy and its clear that Greeks involved into this Mediterranean cluster much earlier then Italics, at around 1000 BCE most likely somewhere around Cyprus.

There is almost no chance that J2-M205 samples arrived during Bronze Age. There is no J2-M205 European Bronze Age samples. Even me as J2-M205 to claim something like that would be a wishful thinking so i rather hold for facts and go step by step J2-M205 conquered Levant In EBA and most likely earliest with Phoenicians 800 BCE started to spread towards Mediterranean Sea. Let me repeat J2-M205 has TMRCA 5900 ybp, and oldest aDNA in Levant 4500 ybp and Phoenician Sidon 3700 ybp. R50 matches Y-aDNA in EBA Levant with distance 5900 YBP and modern Egyptians and Lebanese at distance 3100 ybp. So unlike these easy changeable autosomal traits, very solid Y-DNA proves with great evidences in this case.





I didnt say all J2-M410 arrive from Levant during the Empire, but rather J2-M205. By all evidences it could be earliest of some kind of Phoenician or hellenised Phoenician origin at 800 BCE, but i doubt R50 is so old, he is most likely of after Punic Wars.

As i said in my earlier posts J2-M205 is very very Mediterranean haplogroup with uncanny Canaanite and Levantine signature.
There was big shift of genetics in Bronze Age Levant (confirmed by aDNA). And as it seems many J haplotypes of which for now we have confirmed only J1 and J2-M205 have replaced earlier Neolithic and Chalcolithic mostly T1 and E1b lines in Early Bronze Age from direction of Zagros mountains, most likely by Zagros natives as there we find earlier similar haplotypes since Neolithic (all confirmed by aDNA).

By known history Greeks mixed with Phoenicians in Cyprus already in 1000 BCE, most likely for the first time starting to roll this Mediterranean admix. Italians joined a bit later, first by Greek colonies influence, then by Phoenician and Carthaginian influence and in the end by Roman Empire and Mediterranean connection.


I am very busy and indeed i found new hobby, but i still like to read about these things. I see that you wrote a lot of things in another post which i will try to take time and reply tomorrow : ) Best regards until then !

Please don't bother. I don't waste time interacting with such obviously ignorant and misinformed people spinning fantasies instead of rationally discussing population genetics. I do strongly urge you to follow your new hobby. Maybe it won't be so intellectually taxing.

 

[Jovialis]

I would say Albanians are mostly mix of Bronze Age Indo-Europeans, Anatolian Neolithic, Iron Age Mediterranean, and minor Middle Ages Slavic, Norman, Saxon, etc.

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SEEurope 2 are Albanians. The light-blue component is Anatolian Bronze-Age. Albanians can be modeled as over 1/3rd Anatolian Bronze-Age. It is a larger component for Albanians than Steppe, or Anatolian_N. Clearly, with the arrival of Slavs in the Balkans, the amount of Steppe would have increased. Thus the Anatolian_BA component was possibly larger in the ancestors of Albanians; perhaps comparable to Southern Italian populations.

https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/5/9/eaaw3492.full

 

[Dema]

SEEurope 2 are Albanians. The light-blue component is Anatolian Bronze-Age. Albanians can be modeled as over 1/3rd Anatolian Bronze-Age. It is a larger component for Albanians than Steppe, or Anatolian_N. Clearly, with the arrival of Slavs in the Balkans, the amount of Steppe would have increased. Thus the Anatolian_BA component was possibly larger in the ancestors of Albanians; perhaps comparable to Southern Italian populations.

https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/5/9/eaaw3492.full

This is just a way to model modern humans among some of their prepicked ancient clusters. Thats why they say "it can be modeled this way".
You do understand that they used few early probably Chalcolithic hunter-gatherer groups and few Bronze Age groups and tried to fit entire human genome into these clusters?

Do you really think if you would cross Anatolian Bronze Age, Steppe Bronze Age, and Anatolian Neolithic and you would get Albanians?
Do you understand that time of this process of 2000 years ago and 3000 years ago which you never took into consideration is also somewhat important?

And in this study you cited it was obviously said :

Italian clusters separated into three main groups: Sardinia, Northern (North/Central-North Italy), and Southern Italy (South/Central-South Italy and Sicily); the first two were close to populations originally from Western Europe, while the last was closer to Middle Eastern groups (Fig. 1, A and B; figs. S1D and S2, A to C; and data file S1). These observations were confirmed using a subset of the dataset genotyped for a larger number of SNPs [high-density dataset (HDD) including 591,217 SNPs; see Materials and Methods and the Supplementary Materials; fig. S1D and data file S1]. To highlight the geographic distribution of the identified clusters along the Italian peninsula, we reconstructed the cluster composition of the various administrative regions of Italy by using the best sampling origin information available for each individual in our dataset (Fig. 1C and data file S1). Recent migrants and admixed individuals, as identified on the basis of their copying vectors (fig. S3, data file S2), were removed in subsequent CP/fS analyses (see Materials and Methods and the Supplementary Materials).

Its obvious what is pulling central and south Italians, Albanians, and also Greeks away from north Italians, therefore also away from early Indo-European 1600 BCE Dalmatian sample.


Again i repeat he was not Illyrian lol. He would probably become Illyrian 1000 years later at year 600 BCE. I dont know will Albanians plot close to actual Illyrians when we test them, and i dont care but its obvious Italians are not closer to Illyrians because we yet dont have clear Illyrian samples.


Are you denying ancient near eastern influence in modern Greeks, South Italians, and Albanians?

Also according to you what is pulling Greeks, central and south Italians and somewhat Albanians toward Middle Eastern cluster ?

I gave you 100 % Semitic samples from Levant Bronze Age assimilated into Imperial Romans and later Middle Age Italians, what else evidence you want lol.



Conclusions Our results demonstrate that the genetic variability of present-day Southern Italian populations is characterized by a shared genetic continuity, extending to large portions of central and eastern Mediterranean shores. This area, which is cored in Southern Italy and the Greek-speaking islands, exceeds cross-linguistic differences, encompassing populations belonging to different Indo-European subfamilies (Greek, Romance, Albanian). Noticeably, Southern Italy appear more similar to the Greek-speaking islands of the Mediterranean Sea, reaching as far east as Cyprus, than to samples from continental Greece, suggesting a possible ancestral link which might have survived in a less admixed form in the islands. Their genetic ancestry traces its heritage to complex and extensive patterns of pre- and proto-historical admixture. Besides a predominant Neolithic-like component, our analyses reveal significant impacts of Post-Neolithic Caucasus- and Levantine-related ancestries, which might be further addressed by future studies with a higher sample coverage for a precise contextualization in time and space and by integrating multiple lines of evidence from different disciplines (e.g. linguistics, archaeology, paleogenomics). More recent historical expansions from Continental Europe added further admixture layers, accounting for the genetic and cultural complexity that currently differentiates present-day Southern Balkan and Southern Italian populations.


Modern Southern Italian and Southern Balkan populations are located at the centre of the PCA plot (Fig. 2, Supplementary Fig. S1), forming an almost uninterrupted bridge between the two parallel clines of distribution where most of the other modern populations are found, one stretching along the East-West axis of Europe and the other from the Near East to the Caucasus, respectively (see also Supplementary Information). In particular, Sicily and Southern Italy (SSI) appear as belonging to a wide and homogeneous genetic domain, which is shared by large portions of the present-day South-Eastern Euro-Mediterranean area, extending from Sicily to Cyprus, through Crete, Aegean-Dodecanese and Anatolian Greek Islands. We will refer to this domain as ‘Mediterranean genetic continuum’. On the other hand, the continental part of Greece, including Peloponnesus, appears as slightly differentiated, by clustering with the other Southern Balkan populations of Albania and Kosovo. Finally, North-Central Balkan groups (Southern Slavic-speakers and Romanians) show affinity to Eastern Europeans (Fig. 2, Supplementary Fig. S1, Supplementary Information).

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5434004/

So what is pulling central and south Italians, Greeks, and Albanians towards this Bronze Age Levant or modern Levant cluster according to you?

 

[Dema]

Wrong post.

 

[Dema]

Cyprus was probably first melting point of Mediterranean genetic continuum among natives, Greeks and Phoenicians.

Btw Greek colonies in Illyrian territories are totally ignored here on Phoenician-Greek colonisation map. We know Greeks colonised Illyrians early on like Dyrrachium, Pharos, etc.. Its probably what is pulling Albanians also while Slavic influence should pull them north, therefore pre-slavic Albanians were likely somewhere in middle of Tuscan and Abruzzo, or even central Greek. While pre-Slavic central Greeks were probably something like S. Italian on PCA.



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[Jovialis]

Dema, I assume you are fighting the most recent academic studies on these populations, because you are not personally satisfied withwhat the results are showing. I am not giving you my personal speculation on these matters, but merely pointing out what the leading scholars in human population genetics are proposing. You are merely trying to reconcile disjointed maps, with dubious claims, which is rather obvious, that you are vying for a preferred interpretation. The fact of the matter is, the source populations that compose Albanians, are ultimately summed up in the modeling. You are predominately Anatolian Bronze Age derived. I know that isn’t cool on Eurogenes, but you must accept reality. Your ancestors, prior to Slavic invasions, were possibly even closer to these people. That is, if you look at it from the most logical perspective. Moreover, your obsession with Phoenician admixture with Greeks and Romans, is obviously coming from a place of insecurity. It is well known that Albanians dislike Greeks. However, you are in the minority, because most people do not subscribe to what ethno-nationalistic Abanians believe in. TBH, most people in the USA, or even Europe, probably wouldn't even be able to locate it on a map. I would recommend reading the studies, since you have admitted that you are ignorant of what they are. I’m not sure how things work in Albania, but in most other areas of the world, people come prepared with citable academic sources in these kinds of discussions.

 

[Jovialis]

Also according to you what is pulling Greeks, central and south Italians and somewhat Albanians toward Middle Eastern cluster ?

I gave you 100 % Semitic samples from Levant Bronze Age assimilated into Imperial Romans and later Middle Age Italians, what else evidence you want lol.

I am going to assume you haven't read my last several posts on this matter, so I will say it again.

What is pulling these populations towards their position, is Anatolian Bronze Age admixture, which has been in the central Mediterranean since the early Bronze Age. That is what professionals in this field subscribe to. If I have to say it 100,000 times, before every benighted fool in this hobby recognizes it, than so be it. I am not going to allow it to go unchecked, as long as I am involved in this hobby.

The study you cited, is from 2017, and it is a superficial treatment at best. I already have pointed to sources that demonstrate that there is overlap with ABA in Levantine populations in more recent studies. Do you comprehend that? ABA is 60% Anatolian_N, and 40% CHG.

 

[Southpaw]

I already posted this:

[TABLE="class: cms_table"]
[TR]
[TH="class: cms_table_singleheader, colspan: 2, align: center"]Target: Albanian
Distance: 2.3822% / 0.02382156[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: cms_table_singleleftcolumn, align: right"]36.8[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_singlerightcolumn"]TUR_Barcin_N[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: cms_table_barchartmode1 cms_table_nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: cms_table_singleleftcolumn, align: right"]35.0[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_singlerightcolumn"]Yamnaya_RUS_Samara[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: cms_table_barchartmode1 cms_table_nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: cms_table_singleleftcolumn, align: right"]25.4[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_singlerightcolumn"]TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: cms_table_barchartmode1 cms_table_nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: cms_table_singleleftcolumn, align: right"]2.2[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_singlerightcolumn"]WHG[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: cms_table_barchartmode1 cms_table_nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: cms_table_singleleftcolumn, align: right"]0.6[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_singlerightcolumn"]RUS_Devils_Gate_Cave_N[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N is similar to what you call ABA, Barcin with CHG affinities.

I wouldn't say is the major component but it is there, present which was absent among those Dalmatian samples, Myceneans had less percentage. And, this ethno-nationalistic Albanian has become a scapegoat here lately.

 

[Jovialis]

I already posted this:

[TABLE="class: cms_table"]
[TR]
[TH="class: cms_table_singleheader, colspan: 2, align: center"]Target: Albanian
Distance: 2.3822% / 0.02382156[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: cms_table_singleleftcolumn, align: right"]36.8[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_singlerightcolumn"]TUR_Barcin_N[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: cms_table_barchartmode1 cms_table_nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: cms_table_singleleftcolumn, align: right"]35.0[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_singlerightcolumn"]Yamnaya_RUS_Samara[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: cms_table_barchartmode1 cms_table_nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: cms_table_singleleftcolumn, align: right"]25.4[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_singlerightcolumn"]TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: cms_table_barchartmode1 cms_table_nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: cms_table_singleleftcolumn, align: right"]2.2[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_singlerightcolumn"]WHG[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: cms_table_barchartmode1 cms_table_nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: cms_table_singleleftcolumn, align: right"]0.6[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_singlerightcolumn"]RUS_Devils_Gate_Cave_N[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N is similar to what you call ABA, Barcin with CHG affinities.

I wouldn't say is the major component but it is there, present which was absent among those Dalmatian samples, Myceneans had less percentage. And, this ethno-nationalistic Albanian has become a scapegoat here lately.

There's probably some overlap with Barcin_N and there is a missing CHG component to that sample, which would bring it roughly to the 1/3rd of autosomal percentage.

Try to model it using Anatolia BA, or ChL.

Nobody is being scapegoated, I don't know what you mean by that.