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Free and independent Kurdistan is coming soon.

Goga said:
And if you believe in Christian prophecies, then Islam has to be a religion of the AntiChrist. Islam is against the Christians, so it's an against (ANTI) Christianity. AntiChrist has to be a Muslim then who believes in a false prophet.

But AntiChrisht will be defeated, so will be Islam. If you believe the Biblical prophecies, ofcourse…
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Goga Many people have been labeled the antichrist....including Nero and Adolf hitler. Jesus in the Christian writings warned of false prophets. But Jesus also had may bad things to say against the Jews which since after the holocasut the Christian church (especially the Evangelical Christians, who seem to have a lovely and peacful alliance with Jews) tried not to promote these teaching so as not to bring about more hostility in the name of Religion. Example there is this quote from gospel.

"Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love me, for I have come here from God. I have not come on my own; God sent me. Why is my language not clear to you? Because you are unable to hear what I say. You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies. Yet because I tell the truth, you do not believe me! Can any of you prove me guilty of sin? If I am telling the truth, why don’t you believe me? Whoever belongs to God hears what God says. The reason you do not hear is that you do not belong to God.” (John 8:39-47, NIV)

Even though Jesus never said this to bring persecution but only to highlight a point that a god of violence is not a true god as Jesus for the big part was in reality all about forgiveness, charity and love, but humans easily twist and turn things according to their political need of the day and start quoting religious texts out of proportion and find ways to weave them in their own ideologies. Now religion can be a very complicated matter and the more you learn about religions one see the terrible repercussion they can bring. In reality all religions are political and man made.
 
bicicleur said:
you're talking like a chicken without a head
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One usually start writing these little hostile sentences when they are stuck and have nothing more to say :grin:. Not a very good sign for a healthy debate ;)
 
Yetos said:
that is not an answer maleth, it is an advertisement
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are seeing mass terror on a daily basis in Indonesia as per your highlighted statements as if to make everyone aware of some kind of daily terror in Indonesia?
 
Maleth said:
You are living too much in the past Yetos. (saying it with respect). We can say the same for all the turmoils and atrocities that happend even in Europe and also after 1975. I have been twice to Beirut and its a vibrant city. Lebanese are some of the friendliest people you can meet and its a wonderful country. There is alot of bad governance due that people vote according to religion and not a particular party. The south (Shia) is very much neglected compared to the north. My impression is that the Christians seem to be wealthy and have much better maintained areas. (at least that was my impression)The south they have electricity cuts daily and People need to see how to get by as the south has been neglected by the central government. There is also a big rubbish problem and I truly hope they find a solution for it as it as i have no doubt its a health hazard.
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Maleth that was an answer to some who believe that Lebanon is a quiet, peacefull country, a model state for moderate Islam,
and fact do say the oposite, and soon Lebanon will follow Syria, and you know it
 
Yetos said:
Maleth that was an answer to some who believe that Lebanon is a quiet, peacefull country, a model state for moderate Islam,
and fact do say the oposite, and soon Lebanon will follow Syria, and you know it
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I have been, I sincerely did not feel the apocalypse you already know of.
 
Maleth said:
are seeing mass terror on a daily basis in Indonesia as per your highlighted statements as if to make everyone aware of some kind of daily terror in Indonesia?
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that is the fate of pagans at Indonesia

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pls search for him

Abu Bakar Bashir

and for them

jemaah islamiyah
 
Yetos said:
that is the fate of pagans at Indonesia

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And what is making you think that all sunni Indonesians are involved in this? Its the same people that work against it
 
Maleth said:
I have been, I sincerely did not feel the apocalypse you already know of.
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but hiden does not mean it does not exist,
 
Maleth said:
And what is making you think that all sunni Indonesians are involved in this? Its the same people that work against it
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gave you names and photo

did you search?
 
Yetos said:
gave you names and photo

did you search?
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and Sunni secret services and Sunni goverment officials and Sunni Indonesian army and Police probably know about them too and they are not accomplice.
 
Maleth said:
One usually start writing these little hostile sentences when they are stuck and have nothing more to say :grin:. Not a very good sign for a healthy debate ;)
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Which hostile sentences?
I told a few things that don't match your view and you start about Hitler.
Who is unable to debate here?
Do as you please. Stick to your own truth.
 
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bicicleur said:
Which hostile sentences?
I told a few things that don't match your view and you start about Hitler.
Who is unable to debate here?
Do as you please. Stick to your own truth.
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This thread is not about Maleth. You are allowed to stick to your own truth too. No one is stopping you ;)
 
Maleth said:
and Sunni secret services and Sunni goverment officials and Sunni Indonesian army and Police probably know about them too and they are not accomplice.
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ok then, Can you or our Friend Lebrok find who created them?
they could not fall from the sky, neither raise like a pumpkin at the fields,
someone created them,
so find him to reaveal the Hypocrisy.
until you find the hypocrites, the hidden terror exist, and we know who is creating it, and who supports it,
the reason, well I can guess, but you can guess also different,
The plain ugly TRUGTH is that Hypocrites who slain, rape, etc live among us, and we do little to find who created them, and less to teach these people at their own lands that this is wrong,
Check Bosnia high Imam, he was against Bosnians to support the terror of DAESH, cause it serve wrong values,
they bomb him, the thret him via telephone, they smash his car,
Did secret services or police or interpol etc find any? NOOOOOO, big NOOOO
why? fear? or unable, not worthy services? or not willing to do so? I can not say what is happening, but I wait to see results


PS
I can not convice you,
Neither can you,
simply the values we use to persuade each other, by facts do not exist
all I want is to show people here, that world is not so armonical as they present it,
and many we consider correct are due to advertisement, but they are not,
 
Sile said:
As the UN stated today, the syrian-kurds are part of syrian populace and have voting rights , they must be presented in ANY talks about Syria and not the Turks or Saudis
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Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me...

Kurds were fooled 100 years ago. But it will not happen ever again. The Kurds are the owners of their own ancestral land called Kurdistan. Land of the mighty Aryan Medes and Aryan Mitanni. Kurdistan is historic Kurdish land and it's part of Kurdish nation. Kurdistan belongs to Kurds. And NOBODY will ever take it from us.

Of course Kurds are winning. Kurds are on the right side. They fight for their human rights, for their own ancestral homeland and for humanity.

Darkness, terrorists and authoritarian regimes will be destroyed. Turkey will be destroyed!


Kurds are FREE people and Kurds will shape their onw destiny and make their onw future. The future of Kurdish race and Kurdistan is in Kurdish hands.
 
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BREAKING: The US has recognized the GENOSDIE against the Ezdi Kurds!


And who will pay for it? Barzani!

The Ezdi Kurds will get that traitor, Barzani the Islamist. His Sunni Muslim Peshmerga retreated and betrayed the holy Ezdi land of Shengal and the Ezdi Kurds. Barzani is ISIS, DAESH and worked together with the Sunni Muslim Islamist Erdogan (Turks), Sunni Muslim Arab Al-Baghdadi to kill the REAL most pure Kurds. They committed the GENOCIDE together!


Barzani betrayed his own race for Islam and he, his son and his clan will pay the HIGHEST price! He is not a Kurd, he is part of Islam nation, he is ISIS!



" The US says the Islamic State (IS) group has committed genocide against Yazidis, Christians and Shia Muslims. "

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-35831711



" John Kerry: ISIS responsible for genocide "

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/03/17/politics/us-iraq-syria-genocide/index.html
 
Yetos said:
ok then, Can you or our Friend Lebrok find who created them?
they could not fall from the sky, neither raise like a pumpkin at the fields,
someone created them,
so find him to reaveal the Hypocrisy.
until you find the hypocrites, the hidden terror exist, and we know who is creating it, and who supports it,
the reason, well I can guess, but you can guess also different,
The plain ugly TRUGTH is that Hypocrites who slain, rape, etc live among us, and we do little to find who created them, and less to teach these people at their own lands that this is wrong,
Check Bosnia high Imam, he was against Bosnians to support the terror of DAESH, cause it serve wrong values,
they bomb him, the thret him via telephone, they smash his car,
Did secret services or police or interpol etc find any? NOOOOOO, big NOOOO
why? fear? or unable, not worthy services? or not willing to do so? I can not say what is happening, but I wait to see results


PS
I can not convice you,
Neither can you,
simply the values we use to persuade each other, by facts do not exist
all I want is to show people here, that world is not so armonical as they present it,
and many we consider correct are due to advertisement, but they are not,
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Have you ever heard of the Mafia style (non muslim) groups all around the globe including Japan? who probably between themselves exterminated over a million people and engaged in the most horrendous crimes and to which are not eradicated to this day?

Have you ever heard of the huge amount of (non muslim) regional, civil, and global wars that have resulted in the most hiddeous rapes, crimes that one can ever imagine?

Have you ever heard of the amount of (non religious) gang related deaths that terrorize whole communities world wide?

And why are you so concerned about the destruction of Pagan religion. Wasnt it Chritianity that converted most of the Pagan world? It seems that Muslims do not have much more left to do. Im not sure if there were any masacares involved but they say the South American situation wasn't a very pleasant one.

It seems that violence and hate can be well intertwined with some kind of human behaviour and it comes in all forms including those who manifest it in religious fanaticism, but not only.

Even if Islam did not exist no place in the world would be armonical (as per the word you used) and by singling out one situation as if its the appocalpse of the world and others pose no discomfort to the human race is not going to help your cause.
 
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