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New distribution map of haplogroup E-M123

Hey guys, i dont know if you remember me, but i am the kurdish e-m123 sample, that split and formed a new branch from the others, which you called the indo iranian branch, the branch that went to asia (with IE Colonizers)

while i was here to ask if you could give me any new insights about my y-dna and its origins and meanings, i just found out that there is a new e-m123 sample, that is (i think) exactly classified as my own, and is now my companion if i get it right, so that means there is not only me anymore, belonging to this "new" branch, but now a second

but what i find mindblowing, is that this new e-m123, which is classified in my same exact subclad branch
is also kurdish XD XD, that's can't be a coincidence , and i dont know the guy, if somebody is thinking he might be my cousin or sth, he's not

So my 2 Questions would be, is there anything new you can say about the origin of my y-dna and its meanings?
and 2nd, are me and the other kurdish sample, closely related or have really old same roots, cause we have the same y-dna cluster (as symbolized in yfull) and we are both kurdish, from the same "genetic" pool so to say, so isnt it fair to say, that there is probably some connection, that could be really close because of these 2 similarities? ( and that these connections between me and him could give more research material insights about the origin, cause it could be a close connection?)

thank you for your effort by the way, of analyzing these y dna origins, cause i know nothing about these things, dont have any expertise like you, so i am thankfull that there are genuine people, who are interested in these topics and are willing to explain it in simpler terms for an outsider like me, so i can understand it XD
 
Hey guys, i dont know if you remember me, but i am the kurdish e-m123 sample, that split and formed a new branch from the others, which you called the indo iranian branch, the branch that went to asia (with IE Colonizers)

while i was here to ask if you could give me any new insights about my y-dna and its origins and meanings, i just found out that there is a new e-m123 sample, that is (i think) exactly classified as my own, and is now my companion if i get it right, so that means there is not only me anymore, belonging to this "new" branch, but now a second

but what i find mindblowing, is that this new e-m123, which is classified in my same exact subclad branch
is also kurdish XD XD, that's can't be a coincidence , and i dont know the guy, if somebody is thinking he might be my cousin or sth, he's not


So my 2 Questions would be, is there anything new you can say about the origin of my y-dna and its meanings?
and 2nd, are me and the other kurdish sample, closely related or have really old same roots, cause we have the same y-dna cluster (as symbolized in yfull) and we are both kurdish, from the same "genetic" pool so to say, so isnt it fair to say, that there is probably some connection, that could be really close because of these 2 similarities? ( and that these connections between me and him could give more research material insights about the origin, cause it could be a close connection?)

thank you for your effort by the way, of analyzing these y dna origins, cause i know nothing about these things, dont have any expertise like you, so i am thankfull that there are genuine people, who are interested in these topics and are willing to explain it in simpler terms for an outsider like me, so i can understand it XD

hi agok ,
nice finding cool for you :cool:
yes i saw your sample in yfull you are tested with nebula genomics
and this person is ftdna tested you both united in yfull live under marker e-y334540
1)did you contact him in yfull ?
2)you can ask him from where his direct paternal line came
he can put a flag or at least put the city of his direct line trace to ?

generally speaking i know Kurds are distributed mainly in northern iraq ,west iran , and south east turkey

e-y334540 in yfull live is equivalent to e-ftd38741 of ftdna

the branch in ftdna discover (you can see there is a tester with unknown country i assume it is him)


p.s
the age looks to be bronze age i don't know more
but since e-ft38741 is still derived from e-mf83228
that still look some type of indo-iranian connection or some other
movement from south central asia at one point in time to the west
maybe valerius can add more information
 
yeah, i already wrote him on yfull, didnt receive an answer tho yet

i was exactly gonna ask that, which city hes from and what he knows about his ancestors
 
some e-m123 cases in Medieval Hungarian elite

E-m123>m34:
SZKB45-Conq_Asia_Core-14%
SZKB635-Conq_Asia_Core-6%
SZKB692-Conq_Asia_Core-12%
SZKB7327-Conq_Asia_Core-15%
SZKB799-Conq_Asia_Core-8%



source:

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.64898/2026.04.10.717699v1


someone posted at genearchivist some information on the individuals buried
so i collected the e-m123>m34 cases

here:

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paleoRevenges posted this in one of threads (y)


The Bulgarian paper has the following samples, though keep in mind only 90.8% of these yielded DNA successfully:

total is 918
Prehistory: 89
Iron Age: 55
Hellenistic: 10
Roman: 42
Late Antiquity: 203
Early Medieval (1st Kingdom): 54
Medieval (2nd Kingdom / Byzantine): 401
Ottoman / Renewal: 34
Other / Unassigned: 38

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p.s
( that's 826 samples at least 400 males)

even though e-m123 is only like 1.9% in modern day Bulgarians
i am sure some e-m123 will show up
since there are clearly 2-3 e-m84>pf6751 cases (I32028 ,I41362,I41361)from akbari 2026 data
and probably even 1 e-m84>ft81636 case (I41773)
 
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