Finally, after 10 years, Celine Bon found the time to publish the 2 Mentesh tepe samples the French had.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s42003-023-04681-w
But there are two another earlier papers that used the samples and all the hints were already in there. - It was just nerve wrecking!
Just adding a point:
the paper uses Aknashen which is very early Shulaveri. Has they use Mentesh tepe (prob the french didn't allow them) and it would be even closer because there would be more CHG, since they were admixing with remaining CHG pop near the mountains.
When we get later...
Just because it’s helpful to just state it again and again! - PIE was the language of the Shulaveri-Shomu.
From honey to plough to horses, they had everything. Actually, first culture that diverged a river and invented wine!
It does not matter if they call it South Caucasus, or Armenia or...
Will there be acknowledge that I was right all along?!
So much blablabla for so many years… and in the end, it was the Shulaveri-Shomu all along, weren’t they?
And I have described the route, when and how - It took harvard, Reich and Anthony 8 years to get there?!?!
CLV is the Harvardian talk...
“We have over 200 unplubished sample and none is the forefathers of the Yamnaya?”
I was wondering why this 2021 talk did not seemed to have much traction. There is the reason. Had DWA said that they had one, even just one, of those up the volga with L23 and this would be the talk of the month...
Just to be out there again and again and again.
Right or wrong (we will see) is in my shulaveri2bellbeaker on the African route chapter.
Tut is m269 without downstream clades because (maybe L23) because Tut is the remaining genetic signature of the Merimde beni salama culture 4300bc that were...
Hi, the problem with that is the question itself - Isn´t the proper question what is the percentage of Berber DNA in Iberia?
And the problem is that we do not have a baseline for it. Berber DNA is certainly older than 6000 years old, just there, next to Iberia, and we do know that even the...
Maciamo,
Shouldn't we be considering Egypt, Nubian desert, Nabta Playa "calendar circle" (egypt StoneHenge) from 5500BC as part of the Megalithic cultures?
If not, why so?
And while we are at it (it being about mysteries),
I still have to figure out how the Kum6 girl vanished from the databases and references...
Se was H2a and even enough mutations to be considered H2a3. Now, even when she shows up, there is no reference to it
Hi Anfanger.
You right it needs to be clarified - But many people have it as given (Carlos Quiles, Davidki, etc) that the Kvhanlink R1b1a (L754), sample I0122 is actually a V1639. If I can will try to get the details... or someone who is still engaging Carlos Quiles can ask him as well.
PS...
My previous post, is because sometimes people forget the samples that are used in some sounding names are very few. Iran Chal… is usually the five from Seth gabi.
Even the PCA from Skourtanioti from MPI-SHH, makes its easy to forget that the Mentesh tepe is much more contemporaneous with...
If one bothers to follow this summary of what we have for Mtdna from Mathieson, Wang, Lazaridis, etc... Just check the countries and dating.
I5407
9800
8300-7400 BCE
Lepenski Vir
Serbia
..
H13
I4081
9335
7580-7190 calBCE
Ostrovul Corbului
Romania
R1b1a
H13,H13
I0698_published
7900...
Hi, Carlos Quiles says so ... and I remember reading that refined and updated analysis in one Khav and one Yam turn out to be V1636.
Its his argument that bothers me - We do have Archaeology and now aDna with large movements from South to North Caucasus... So, lots of Iran and CHG into north...
I agree with the paper conclusions.
Because basically it says…. “we still don’t know”. It was obvious they were trying to figure the archaeological relevant Levant and eastern Anatolia bronze age (because those were the samples they had) and are honest enough to say “still couldn’t” instead...
Bicicleur ... its a good example why so many people get at times exasperated with Carlos Quiles, even consider him lacking intelligence. He correctly notices that the paper forgets that R1b V1636 is:
But instead of thinking , well if V1636, 4000 BC – 3000BC are found at steppe and we have an...
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