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    Genetic study The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans

    Finally, after 10 years, Celine Bon found the time to publish the 2 Mentesh tepe samples the French had. https://www.nature.com/articles/s42003-023-04681-w But there are two another earlier papers that used the samples and all the hints were already in there. - It was just nerve wrecking!
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    Genetic study The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans

    Just adding a point: the paper uses Aknashen which is very early Shulaveri. Has they use Mentesh tepe (prob the french didn't allow them) and it would be even closer because there would be more CHG, since they were admixing with remaining CHG pop near the mountains. When we get later...
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    Genetic study The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans

    Yes, consistently J2B :) -- My hopes of finding L23 vanished long ago. But Mtdna is seen in Northern Caucasus, H2+152, H15a, I1.
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    Genetic study The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans

    Just because it’s helpful to just state it again and again! - PIE was the language of the Shulaveri-Shomu. From honey to plough to horses, they had everything. Actually, first culture that diverged a river and invented wine! It does not matter if they call it South Caucasus, or Armenia or...
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    Genetic study The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans

    Will there be acknowledge that I was right all along?! So much blablabla for so many years… and in the end, it was the Shulaveri-Shomu all along, weren’t they? And I have described the route, when and how - It took harvard, Reich and Anthony 8 years to get there?!?! CLV is the Harvardian talk...
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    New Dating for Ancient European admixture

    Hi Angela, What you make of the paragraph, <B>lines 448- 452?</B> Update: See you already addressed it above.
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    David W. Anthony 2021 Talk on Yamnaya Origins

    “We have over 200 unplubished sample and none is the forefathers of the Yamnaya?” I was wondering why this 2021 talk did not seemed to have much traction. There is the reason. Had DWA said that they had one, even just one, of those up the volga with L23 and this would be the talk of the month...
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    New paper: Ancient Egypt 18th Dynasty R1b, mtDNA K

    Just to be out there again and again and again. Right or wrong (we will see) is in my shulaveri2bellbeaker on the African route chapter. Tut is m269 without downstream clades because (maybe L23) because Tut is the remaining genetic signature of the Merimde beni salama culture 4300bc that were...
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    Two Ancient Iberia DNA Papers with articles.

    Hi, the problem with that is the question itself - Isn´t the proper question what is the percentage of Berber DNA in Iberia? And the problem is that we do not have a baseline for it. Berber DNA is certainly older than 6000 years old, just there, next to Iberia, and we do know that even the...
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    New map of the Megalithic cultures

    Maciamo, Shouldn't we be considering Egypt, Nubian desert, Nabta Playa "calendar circle" (egypt StoneHenge) from 5500BC as part of the Megalithic cultures? If not, why so?
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    Genomic History of Neolithic to Bronze Age Anatolia, N.Levant & S. Caucasus

    Hi Jovialis. Can you do anything with those bam files?... Like checking the MTT001 sample :)))
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    Genomic History of Neolithic to Bronze Age Anatolia, N.Levant & S. Caucasus

    And while we are at it (it being about mysteries), I still have to figure out how the Kum6 girl vanished from the databases and references... Se was H2a and even enough mutations to be considered H2a3. Now, even when she shows up, there is no reference to it
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    Genomic History of Neolithic to Bronze Age Anatolia, N.Levant & S. Caucasus

    Hi Anfanger. You right it needs to be clarified - But many people have it as given (Carlos Quiles, Davidki, etc) that the Kvhanlink R1b1a (L754), sample I0122 is actually a V1639. If I can will try to get the details... or someone who is still engaging Carlos Quiles can ask him as well. PS...
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    Genomic History of Neolithic to Bronze Age Anatolia, N.Levant & S. Caucasus

    My previous post, is because sometimes people forget the samples that are used in some sounding names are very few. Iran Chal… is usually the five from Seth gabi. Even the PCA from Skourtanioti from MPI-SHH, makes its easy to forget that the Mentesh tepe is much more contemporaneous with...
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    Genomic History of Neolithic to Bronze Age Anatolia, N.Levant & S. Caucasus

    If one bothers to follow this summary of what we have for Mtdna from Mathieson, Wang, Lazaridis, etc... Just check the countries and dating. I5407 9800 8300-7400 BCE Lepenski Vir Serbia .. H13 I4081 9335 7580-7190 calBCE Ostrovul Corbului Romania R1b1a H13,H13 I0698_published 7900...
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    Genomic History of Neolithic to Bronze Age Anatolia, N.Levant & S. Caucasus

    Hi, Carlos Quiles says so ... and I remember reading that refined and updated analysis in one Khav and one Yam turn out to be V1636. Its his argument that bothers me - We do have Archaeology and now aDna with large movements from South to North Caucasus... So, lots of Iran and CHG into north...
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    Genomic History of Neolithic to Bronze Age Anatolia, N.Levant & S. Caucasus

    I agree with the paper conclusions. Because basically it says…. “we still don’t know”. It was obvious they were trying to figure the archaeological relevant Levant and eastern Anatolia bronze age (because those were the samples they had) and are honest enough to say “still couldn’t” instead...
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    Genomic History of Neolithic to Bronze Age Anatolia, N.Levant & S. Caucasus

    Bicicleur ... its a good example why so many people get at times exasperated with Carlos Quiles, even consider him lacking intelligence. He correctly notices that the paper forgets that R1b V1636 is: But instead of thinking , well if V1636, 4000 BC – 3000BC are found at steppe and we have an...
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