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  1. 26%Neanderthal

    Haplogroup IJ, the seafarers’ gene? (Entertainment Post)

    By re-reading my post I actually noticed that the Vikings built sophisticated (not as much as the Phoenician but still advanced) ships that the origianal Irish and Scots did not? The difference between Vikings and Irish/Scots is the much larger presence of Paleolithic-European I in the Vikings...
  2. 26%Neanderthal

    Haplogroup IJ, the seafarers’ gene? (Entertainment Post)

    We are deviating enormously from the main point of the post. First of all, we are not talking about modern nations. We are talking about a period in which humans went from having NO SKILL in some field and DEVELOPED IT OUT NOTHING. Basically they went from zero to this: this is a...
  3. 26%Neanderthal

    Sultans of the Ottoman dynasty may have belonged to haplogroup R1a or J2

    Considering the Ottomans supplanted the Eastern Roman or Byzantine Empire, it doesn't sound too surprising
  4. 26%Neanderthal

    Haplogroup IJ, the seafarers’ gene? (Entertainment Post)

    This policy whereby you can't post links before 10 posts is quite annoying o_O. I need just one more anyway
  5. 26%Neanderthal

    Haplogroup IJ, the seafarers’ gene? (Entertainment Post)

    The Phoenicians (J2) who crossed the entire mediterranean (which for that age was something as tough as for the Spaniards to cross the atlantic), the ancestors of the Etruscans who from Western Anatolia reached Tuscany (J2) were hardly Indo-Eurasians. Both these people traded extensively with...
  6. 26%Neanderthal

    Haplogroup IJ, the seafarers’ gene? (Entertainment Post)

    Another mysterious group of ancient people whose origin scientists still haven't agreed on are the so-called Sea Peoples, basically pirates who thought to have played a fundamental element in the collapse of the Bronze Age and the destruction of entire populations in Greece, Anatolia and...
  7. 26%Neanderthal

    Haplogroup IJ, the seafarers’ gene? (Entertainment Post)

    My main points here were 1) Which ancient group set the basics of naval engineering and navigation skills and who acquired it later. There seems to be a tendency towards I and J2 people developing complex ships and going long distances at sea before the indo-eurasians arrived and developed any...
  8. 26%Neanderthal

    Haplogroup IJ, the seafarers’ gene? (Entertainment Post)

    There's not so many J2, making it very unlikely that he was related to Officer Worden of the U.S. navy. In turn there are quite a lot I Scandinavian on the list you gave me. Then there's also a lot of R1b British. Anyway, we know that Britain was conquered by Normans, which in turn come from...
  9. 26%Neanderthal

    Haplogroup IJ, the seafarers’ gene? (Entertainment Post)

    j1 remained mostly in the Middle-East and headed south to Arabia, unlike j2 who apparently crossed the mediterranean in mass, making it to Crete (Minoans), Tuscany and Sardinia (Etruscans) and even Iberia (Phoenicians) and started entirely new mediterranean civilizations. I2 also remained more...
  10. 26%Neanderthal

    Haplogroup IJ, the seafarers’ gene? (Entertainment Post)

    I also found a (very) speculative article linking Phoenicians, Normans, Venetians and Templars. As I said I can't post links yet. You can find it on google: Another History of the Knights Templar, Part 7
  11. 26%Neanderthal

    Haplogroup IJ, the seafarers’ gene? (Entertainment Post)

    I can't post links because I don't have enough post. Anyway I found the John L. Worden haplogroup on Wikipedia and a page talking about this mysterious Horatio Nelson Worden in Google. Here's what it says: Birthplace: St Johns, , New Brunswick, Canada, 1798 Death: Died August 18, 1870 in...
  12. 26%Neanderthal

    Haplogroup IJ, the seafarers’ gene? (Entertainment Post)

    I am new to this forum and wanted to start with some entertaining coincidences I noticed. I am no scientist, I just have a loose interest for genetics (as I have for football and cooking :O). So don't take this as an attempt to define something scientifically, but rather as observations of a...
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