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    Italic peoples

    Thank you for the material. Even assuming this is correct (as an Italian knowing the inter-regional dynamics within Italy and people's movements IRL, I really struggle to see how someone from Umbria, but even an Abruzzese, may be genetically closer to a Greek than a Tuscan), that was really not...
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    Italic peoples

    Yes, I've noticed that in your head Italy means "territories formerly known as Magna Graecia". If that is the case you are more "Italian" than me, indeed. :D You are not alone though, it seems to be a common misconception around athrofora.
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    Italic peoples

    So that there are no misunderstandings: I’m not talking about threads (as a matter of fact this is about Italics) I’m talking about this subforum quite randomly (if you ask me unless you are an ancient Greek from Salento) called “Italy & Greece”.
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    Italic peoples

    Cool. Next time an "Italy & France" subforum then because of the Gauls in both France and Northern Italy, or an "Italy & Croatia" one because of Istria and Dalmazia, or an "Italy & Spain" because of the Aragonese rule in Southern Italy, or an "Italy & Britain" subforum because of the Roman...
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    Italic peoples

    Northern Italy is not a town, contrary to what some may think in the US. And no, really, I did not list any "important Italian connections to Greece", quite the opposite in fact. I rest my case that an "Italy & Greece" subforum is curious, at least as much as a "France & Germany" subforum would...
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    Italic peoples

    Do you really mean that Umbria and Abruzzo have more in common with Greece than UK has in common with Ireland, Spain with Portugal and Benelux countries have with one another? Sorry but I strongly disagree. By the way, also in absolute terms I don't see a special connection of Italy to Greece...
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    Italic peoples

    Hi, I'm a Northern (Lombardy)/Central-Southern (mostly Abruzzo with a bit of Umbrian) mix. I suppose I descend from many different Italic peoples. It's curious for me to see this is an "Italy & Greece" sub-forum, I'm not sure what's the link which I undoubtedly see in the Benelux, Ireland &...
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    Pre-roman mtdna umbria

    Hi all. Italian here, new to the forum. One of my paternal great-grandparents was from Umbria, actually my Y-DNA comes from there, so as much as I appreciate this article I'm a bit disappointed it didn't delve deeper into autosomal DNA. Do you know if there are any new papers coming out in the...
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