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Part II. Adding to my previous post regarding the Shulaveri Sample ,MTT001, its revealing that: a. the Youngster had Mtdna U7, which is a very Iranian one, when compared to the Other shulaveri samples from Aratashen that have H2+152, H15a and I1. Ie he/she had an iranian mother that is not seen...

One of the things this paper did is destroy (partly)my conspiracy theory against Reich and Krauser. Now I know why they had published everyone around them, everyone before and after them (sort of) ---- because the french have them!!! And sure enough, nobody expects a french to share those...

Hi. I thought they couldn't get enough collagen for proper dating. When and where is his new dating? PS: that sample was perfectly stratified and his strada well dated. So, what changed? EDIT: Yes, I do remember it was then published as IA.

Ahhh, yes indeed.

Hi. You mean that, like I fought for months and got mocked for, hajji firuz chalc, ie the "steppe" R1b Z2103 from 5300 bc, ie the other guy apart from shulaveri making wine... Was a Shulaveri (or Shares Lots of ancestry) teaching winemaking in iran? Does anyone have access to BAM for this sample?

Well, I paid the 31 USD because the video indicated that they had Shulaveri-Shomu... when in fact, not really. but it wasn't all to waste. So my first comments are. the Good: a. they do have DNA from a boy in Mentesh Tepe from 5500bc (so, date is good), but really could only extract Mtdna. So...

Thanks .... but I meant what the "I" in I1388, I1389 stands for... Which region of France. :)

Even Davidki says it looks 100% CWC... so can not be 100% steppe.

Does anyone knows why only two bell beakers appear in the supplements and all other BBC , "I" , with several (L151 and P312) are absent? I have checked several of the excel supplements and can't seem to find those... Edit: and does anyone know where the "I" is from or stands for?

Yes, really interesting if image shows it "over time" (oldest to newest) and have those two R1b L151 and P312 steppe warriors have so little steppe in them, does it not???

You are very precise in your assertions and that is good. Because in the end you will be right or wrong. Just like me. So, EEF came from Cucuteni process? OK. That is your take and might very well be. Again… so, ancestry came from the west to mingle with EHG that already had mingled with CHG...

@Anfänger If something I know is that what the future holds will probably be a surprise. Yet, what I cannot fathom is this idea that suddenly, out of the blue because usually the strata has well defined layers, the Huntergatheres of a region become totally, very complex and multi species...

I always struggle that sort of view. No time and space :). Well if anything, from LDC to Sredni there was a change of crania from robust, large skulls, to gracile and median width. So someone came from somewhere don't you think? I always try to see what happens in real life events - From...

Yes, the question will be if it will be the LDC or the Sredny Stog that is going to be relevant. You believe the earlier LDC I keep my mantra of the vanishing Shulaveri that flew to north from Ubaid (or most likely climate change :) ) taking a more robust neolithic to the region with its very...

This is my point above. There is NO continuum in transcaucasia! Hunter-gatheres lived in the Caucasus mountains, people lived in western georgia, in places like Chokh and all indicates they should be very much Kotias (KK). Then by 6200bc the Shulaveri arrived a fully developed Neolithic and...

Anfänger, In my mind this does not make much sense. If people at reich and MPI-SHH say Iran Neolithic, they can not be meaning South Caucasus, wouldn't you agree? Do they have a severe problem with language or geography? the Armenian Laziridis talked in 2016, believe me has absolutely nothing...

Riverman, We’ve all, I suppose, been over this sort of discussions over and over again. What I know is that of all the samples they already have sequenced, covering 9th-7th millennium, covering late 5th millennium to the end of bronze age…. South of Caucasus, north of Caucasus, steppe, Balkans...

If Dienekes said Azerbaijan and wanting to mean Shulaveri-Shomu than it was really strange that he knew so little , since Shulaveri were mostly from what today is Georgia (and Armenia for the Aratashen region). So saying Azerbaijan he for sure meant something else. Referring to Azerbaijan...

Riverman, Everybody has their own perspective on the issue. However, some will be correct and others naturally WRONG. It will be that simple. - As long as people admit they were wrong before, It will be also natural that many will be adapting their perspectives to the data regarding DNA that...

Partly so. However the mtdna thus far associated with Shulaveri (I1, H15, h2) is seen increased in the steppe (progress2 R1b has it) and not in the Caucasus (as per wang et al), as well as the “mother” haplo for I (N1a) and afaik also the W haplo that has the oldest instances in Anatolia (but...