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You are right Aberdeen, you can't decide if Albanians descend from some ancient group of people based only on a name. I'll give you some further info. Illyrians were romanised linguistically by romans after they were finally conquered in 168 BC. If albanians descend from illyrians, shouldn't...

As far as I know Arber or Arben don't mean anything in albanian language. Only shqiptar means something from the word shqipe which means eagle in albanian. You say Arber and Arben are derived from albanoi and they're loanwords. If serbs decide to loan the word greek tomorrow and call...

@FSB We're talking about the word albanoi, the tribe mentioned by Ptolemy the geographer. I gave you a literal translation of what these words mean. And they don't mean anything in albanian. You understand albanian and you know they don't mean anything in albanian, so you have to accept...

Hi LeBrok. I agree with you. I'm not saying that bosnians can't be illyrian at all. There were illyrians who lived in present day bosnia. Most of them were assimilated to slavic culture and language. They didn't just disappear. So yes you will find some bosnians who are descended from...

I'm really suprised when some albanians freak out when they're told they could be partly thracian. This is not something outsiders are saying. Albanian school history books say that albanians are thraco-illyrian. Some say thracians were greater than illyrians. If you ask anybody outside of...

Hi all. I want to talk about the word albanoi because it can point us in the right direction as to who is closest to illyrians. A lot of albanians think that because the word albanoi sounds similar to the word albanian, that it must be proof that albanians are descendants of illyrians. But...

Mal means mountain in albanian Mal does not mean black in albanian The albanian word for black is zi

You should've said this in the previous post. But you wrote only Arben to try to make a connection with a celtic word ben(according to you) that means mountain. Ben doesn't mean moutain in albanian. The albanian word for mountain is mal. Arben or Arber, either way, i don't see the connection...

Alb does not mean mountain. Alb comes from the latin word albus which means white. You can ask any scholar who knows latin about this. My answer is not simplistic and its 100% scientific. Old albanian name was not arben. Arben is simply a man's name. I know albanian 100%. Arben does not mean...

@Garrick All this nimrod stuff you have put is is strange. Its illogical nonsense. Incoherent. You said all this after i said theres no connection between illyrian and Slavic. Whats wrong with being Slavic? Are you denying yourself who you are or your forefathers? If you think you are...

Theres no such thing as Slavic illyrians. Slavs came to the balkans in 500AD. Theres no connection between Slavic and illyrian

@FBS The name albanoi has a meaning in aromanian(vlach). Its made up of the words alba + noi. Alba means white and noi means we. Alba is feminine. Alba would be used in a phrase like 'feata alba', meaning that white girl. Albu is the masculine. It would be used in phrase like 'ficioru...

I have found a thracian tribe called dii. Di in albanian means to know. There is also an illyrian tribe called kinambroi. It literally means you have defended us. Mbroi means defended in albanian. Na mbroi means defended us. Ki na mbroi means you have defended us. I think the word ki would be...

Are you saying that some illyrians were romanised and some were able to escape romanisation?

Some of your questions have been already answered by my previous posts. Like i have said so many times we dont know much about the illyrian language because it is dead now. Illyrians spoke illyrian before being conquered by the romans. After being conquered by the romans, illyrians speak...

At Nobody1 Yes, thats what im suggesting. From a linguistic point of view istriots, istro-romanians and aromanians(vlach) are the true descendants of illyrians. The only reason we know about illyrians is because some greek and roman historians decided to write about them. Had they not written...

Because greece had an alphabet, they had written language, they had books, they had incriptions on stone. It would be extremely hard for rome to romanise greece. And rome borrowed heavily from greece. Romans were admirers of greek culture. Why would they want to destroy that which they...

Vetus There are lot of other options. Anyway, if they find human remnants in Bosnia, 2000 years old, and they show up to be a perfect match for ancestors of todays Bosnians, would you believe that Bosnians were Illyrians? The bosnian language and culture is not illyrian. There might be some...

The Romans had very little interest in the Basque Country and they largely left the Basques alone. There was nothing beyond basque country but the atlantic. The romans were more interested in the mediterranean. They had no interest in the atlantic. The illyrians were a different...

So many people have so many opinions. The only reason you guys know about illyria is because greek and roman writers decided to write about them. But they also wrote that rome went to war with illyria, there were 3 wars actually between rome and illyria, the last war ended in 168BC with rome...