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Thank you, Pax. In fact, adding Sardinia makes everything more realistic. Although I can see that the G25 really accentuates my 'Greek'/southeastern European side (Simulated-No Sardinia) (adding Sardinia) 3D

Unlike other calculators and oracles, the G25 always tends to add a proximity or a "Ligurian" component to me, while in the combos the recurring "ingredients" become Lombardy and Greece Distance to: G25_Stuvanè_scaled 0.02766088 Italian_Liguria_simulated_scaled 0.02783207...

Mine: I suppose that since there are no samples from Emilia and Romagna, the results are a little more unusual and work with more atypical averages and combos Distance to: Dodecadk12bStuvanè 1.76278189 ALP209_Veneto 4.04056927 PG08_Umbria 4.21613567 MarABU050D_Marche 4.24811723...

Mine (merging part 1 + part 2 + Viking world by Salento) Distance to: Dodecadk12bStuvanè 3.53970338 I23205_M_Serbia_Mokrin_EBA_Maros_cov-72% 3.82584631 I23208_F_Serbia_Mokrin_EBA_Maros_cov-53% 4.80322808 I18493_F_Hungary_LaTene_cov-71% 5.16175358 I11721_F_Slovakia_IA_Vekerzug_cov-66%...

Mine, adding SRB_Iron_Gates_HunterGatherer_outlier and Progress_CHG_Simulated Distance to: G25Stuvanè_scaled 0.11485901 Anatolia_10KYA:TUR_Boncuklu_N 0.13668156 Anatolia_10KYA:TUR_Pinarbasi_HG 0.14913760 Hypothetical_Greece_10KYA:Iron_Gates_Hunter_Gatherer_I5232 0.14913760...

Distance to: G25_Stuvanè_scaled 0.11485901 Anatolia_10KYA:TUR_Boncuklu_N 0.13668156 Anatolia_10KYA:TUR_Pinarbasi_HG 0.18283314 Levant_10KYA:Levant_PPNB 0.23929512 Levant_10KYA:Levant_Natufian_I0861 0.25491689 Caucasus_10KYA:GEO_CHG_KK1 0.26649835...

My results Distance to: G25Stuvanè_scaled 0.11516288 West_Eurasian:TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N 0.13105773 West_Eurasian:AZE_Caucasus_lowlands_LN 0.13603720 West_Eurasian:TUR_Barcin_N 0.13668156 West_Eurasian:TUR_Pinarbasi_HG_ZBC_IPB001 0.14703901 West_Eurasian:TUR_Tell_Kurdu_EC...

They also managed to remove the versions that Pax pointed out to us, those uploaded to Web Archive. As things stand, I would say that they have gone much further than the invitation not to be lazy. Rather, it seems to me that someone needs the cash, and to monopolise the data for oracle and PCA.

Distance to: Dodecadk12bStuvanè 28.61736361 Anatolian_BA:I2495:Lazaridis_2017 28.69391573 Anatolian_BA:I2499:Lazaridis_2017 29.49784738 Minoan:Lasithi:I9005:Lazaridis_2017 29.81785204 Minoan:Odigitria:I9131:Lazaridis_2017 30.38551300 Minoan:Odigitria:I9130:Lazaridis_2017 31.07440587...

Based on Jovialis coordinates - post #12 Target: Dodecadk12bStuvanè Distance: 2.7450% / 2.74500617 | ADC: 0.25x RC 35.1 C_Italian_ChL 34.2 Minoan 30.7 Yamnaya Target: Dodecadk12bStuvanè Distance: 2.2241% / 2.22410637 46.1 Minoan 29.2 Yamnaya 22.8 Remedello...

@Stefano I'm from Romagna and Ferrara. Regarding our similarity with the Szolad specimens, I will die with the doubt of knowing if they were individuals of mixed roots (Lombards / Germans + Southern Europeans), if they were Italics / Romans transplanted in Pannonia or local provincials (their...

The subject is fascinating, but also tremendously complicated and I'm no expert. Often in order to understand and review that historical period, I see this short animation, imo really well done :)

Maybe some J's really made it up in the Balkans in the Ottoman era. Defining it then as "Ottoman" / "Turkish" could be difficult since above all the J2 is in some way "indigenous" to the pre-Turkish Anatolia and Caucasus, but let's not forget that Aegean world, Greece itself and the Danube have...

If you are using the Dodecadk12b set on Vahaduo that Jovialis is talking about this is me Distance to: Dodecadk12bStuvanè 3.43011662 Szolad31:Amorim_2018 3.44400929 Szolad36:Amorim_2018 3.71212877 Collegno36:Amorim_2018 4.12127407 ETR007:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021 4.21513938...

@Hjiju6 @Archetype0ne, clearly even the Sardinians have not remained untouched by introgressions, there has been a Roman contribution and even before that they are also reached by Middle Eastern / Iranian influences (see Fernades 2020), but I would say not such as to upset their autosomal and...

For what very little I know, I believe that the only 2 samples that can be traced back to the Hittites for now (or a Hittite context between the 19th and 16th centuries BC) are MA2200 and and MA2203 and the reference study should be the following (I don't have direct access to the paper so what...

Hi Archetype0ne, unfortunately when I took my test with 23andMe nearly 10 years ago, it didn't return any subclades to me. A laconic J-M172 remains on my file. I have never booked any other test to go in depth with my haplogroup, I do not rule out doing it in the future, only I hope with ever...

Beyond the fact that some reconstructions may be questionable and made with some bias too much in mind, you must still consider that those portrayed are warriors in the middle of the Iron Age, when their ethnogenesis has been completed and stabilized and as regards the Italics and Latins -...

Which pictures?

I'm not an expert in these matters either, but IMO - for both historical and genetic reasons - the hypothesis of an introgression of ancient Caucasian/Iranian groups onto a broad Levantine substratum that maintained and passed on its original proto-semitic language through local maternal...