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Right and I agree with that which is why it is silly to constantly mention Urnfield. Especially considering these samples were using kurgans.

I am pointing out that we already have Urnfield DNA from 1300-1200BC which is when Urnfield was expanding. They plotted nothing like Basarabs and were closest to Polish people of today. I don't know why you are obsessed with Urnfield, by the time Basarabs or Thracians were expanding Urnfield...

What are you on about? These V13 were using Kurgans, Urnfield had nothing to do with Kurgans. These V13 are heavy on EEF and very low WHG, the Urnfielders had high WHG (30-40%, highest we have seen in bronze and iron age) and low EEF. It is clear from Tollense battle and these samples that the...

Bunch of nonsense here. EEF/ANF had darker eyes and skin than WHG unless you're going back to 20,000BC or something when everyone had darker skin. WHGs had blue eyes

Yes and another Z2105 there too, seems to be a lot of ydna diversity in that area. I am struggling to understand which ydna are actually Scythian - initially we thought Scythians were R1a, now we are also seeing Q1B, E-V13 and Z2105. We need to know the sub clades

Looking at the data again I have a feeling these R-M198 were proto Thracians - do we have the sub clades?

Finally we can rule out E-V13 spreading with Urnfield. E-V13 was always further south than the Urnfield core, genetically different to the Urnfielders who had much more WHG and much less EEF. E-V13 expanded later during mid Hallstatt period and further south. These E-V13 had Kurgan graves like...

How can they replace all the R-L51? Do you understand how conquest works? A lot of these I2 men would have died and they would have taken locals in for man power. The Romans did the same. This wasn't a case of replacing the locals, it may have been a case of imposing their own...

Based on Tollense battle the Lusatians were the Urnfielders as it was clearly an orchestrated mass scale attack on the locals, it wasn't a random conflict between 2 small tribes. The Lusatians/Urnfielders travelled to North Germany for conquest, Denmark/North Germany at the time was very much...

Proto Urnfield core was further north around Hungary/Slovakia/Poland. That has already been established.

The point is there was no V13 and no J2a at Tollense, need to look further south for V13 because it wasn't in this part of Europe during the bronze age and it didn't have any relationship with the I2 (Lusatians) at this point. Some of the R-L51 in the Tollense battle were locals, the I2 invaders...

The majority of Tollense warriors that invaded the region were I2 not R-L51 and had deep origins further east (Poland/Slovakia/Hungary) which is were the Lusatians resided and continued to remain for 1000 years. The core of Urnfield (proto Lusatians) was mostly I2 but they wouldn't have been...

Pure speculation at this point. It is difficult to claim Tumulus was Italo Celtic when the illyrians were not Italo Celtic, the Mycenaeans were also Tumuli people and had nothing to do with Italo Celtic which hadn't formed yet. I know R-L51 became a major part of Urnfield culture in the west...

The Urnfield core was dominated by i2 (Lusatians, Hungary, Slovakia etc), please refer to ancient DNA such as Tollense - zero J2a and no V13 either. Tumulus R-L51 was absorbed by Urnfield when they expanded from east to west. Italo Celtic has nothing to do with Tumulus culture, Illyrians were...

What has J2a got to do with Urnfield? Anyway, even V13 hasn't shown up in Urnfield proper yet. For some reason V13 seem to expand when the Roman empire was growing. We should consider the following possibilities - 1. V13 was initially Phrygian or Thracian, maybe both as they may have had the...

Also did it to the Jews, don't forget about the crucifixions.

By wipe out I wasn't suggesting every last man but they likely lost their language and identity. We can see there was a huge turnover during Roman period and the illyrians were no longer the majority in their home land, at least not in Hvar

The Romans really did a number on Dalmatians, looks like it wasn't the Slavs that wiped out the illyrians

You're right there, people supporting terrorists is a disgrace. The territory of Israel needs to be sorted but attacking and kidnapping innocent people isn't how you do it, they have achieved nothing by doing that. What kind of lesson are these terrorists teaching their kids and the future of...

The force that is prepared for war is usually victorious, especially if they catch the opposition by surprise. Islam spread in middle east and north Africa first, it didn't get far into Europe except for Iberia, until the Ottoman anyway. Same case with the Romans, the Romans were fully prepared...