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    J2b2-L283 (proto-illyrian)

    If you meant a few J2b l283 moved north during the Urnfield "period"/early iron age then sure that may be possible but the majority of J2b l283 remained in western Balkans and italy continuing their tumulus tradition and not cremating. We don't have many Urnfield samples because as you said...
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    J2b2-L283 (proto-illyrian)

    Early Urnfielders were mostly I2 with small amount of R1b and R1a and expanded from east to west. J2b l283 was spread with Cetina and Tumulus culture
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    J2b2-L283 (proto-illyrian)

    Nothing to do with Urnfield, Tumulus culture movement is possible as J2B l283 emerged with Cetina
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    Neolithic Refuge and Continuity in Transylvania

    That's normal because H is the most common mtdna in Europe but it has little to do with Ukraine where it has lower rate than most of Europe - "Haplogroup H is the most common and most diverse maternal lineage in Europe, in most of the Near East and in the Caucasus region. The Saami of Lapland...
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    Average Percentages of WHG, ENF, and ESH Ancestry in Modern Europeans

    Balts and Slavs have the highest amount of WHG by far -
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    Neolithic Refuge and Continuity in Transylvania

    E1b-M78 were Christian? Which sub clade? No ancient M78 in Europe other than V13, they all appear after Roman era
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    Neolithic Refuge and Continuity in Transylvania

    That's true, English language has taken over recently due to American media/Hollywood and the internet
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    Neolithic Refuge and Continuity in Transylvania

    South Americans speak a Latin language - maybe that's why they are called latinos. I'm sure some of them also have Italian/Latini yDNA If we look at Romania which are Latin speakers, they don't have much J2b L283 so I don't think it was spread much by Latin speakers. Some J2B L283 was absorbed...
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    Neolithic Refuge and Continuity in Transylvania

    Latins have little to do with R-Z2103, it has always been mostly a balkan line. In terms of R1b lines Latins carry R-U152 which is very rare in Albanians
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    How much Roman Italian DNA do Iberians have?

    ?? I don't understand, i2 was everywhere in Europe 17,000 years ago
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    How much Roman Italian DNA do Iberians have?

    They were cetina or bell beaker
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    Neolithic Refuge and Continuity in Transylvania

    No J2b l283 either, what year are these samples dated?
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    How much Roman Italian DNA do Iberians have?

    There's something wrong with these calculators, Illyrians weren't so numerous that even Spanish ancestry would be mostly Illyrian. I think they are mixing up Illyrian with maybe previous Bell Beaker or Tumulus samples. Illyrians match closest with Albanians and North Italians
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    Thread: E-V13 Frequency Maps and Data

    This tells us that the Romans almost wiped out the Dalmatians who were J2b L283
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    Neolithic Refuge and Continuity in Transylvania

    "Scholars have agreed that cremation began in the Stone Age, around 3000 B.C. Taking a western perspective, during the Stone Age cremation began to spread across northern Europe, as evidenced by decorative pottery urns in western Russia among the Slavic peoples." Instead of "Slavic" people it...
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    J2b2-L283 (proto-illyrian)

    There was zero J2b L283 in Tollense. J2b L283 remained strong in Western Balkans until the Romans got there, we had samples recently from a Croatian island and there was almost total replacement of J2b L283 in the Roman era, they really messed up the Dalmatians
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    Neolithic Refuge and Continuity in Transylvania

    Urnfielders destroyed/depopulated bronze age Bulgaria and had a Baltic signal (just like Tollense), it is slowly unfolding now. Urnfielders = Lusatians It mentions that they mixed with the locals who were heavy on ANF
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    J2b2-L283 (proto-illyrian)

    This study also proves that Celts (late Hallstatt/La Tene) have nothing to do with Urnfield, the genetics and ydna are completely different to Tollense. Celts didn't exist in the Bronze age so they didn't have anything to do with Urnfield regardless. Late Hallstatt has a lot of G2a and R1b while...
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    Neolithic Refuge and Continuity in Transylvania

    These samples being L-618 makes sense now because Thracians were not using kurgans, they were mostly cremating - that was confusing me when I first saw this, which is why I mentioned these could be Cimmerians/proto Scythians. I think Thracian adna will have a bit more WHG ancestry than these...
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    Neolithic Refuge and Continuity in Transylvania

    E-L618 is almost extinct in Europe - https://www.yfull.com/tree/E-L618/ It mostly exists in north africa. Where are the England and Lithuanian samples, I doubt they are ancient?
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