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    J2b2-L283 (proto-illyrian)

    https://imgur.com/a/uYLCEpr I just realized something interesting regarding Mokrin 15, thanks to Wanderer’s rambling. Mokrin15 is grave 163. But they also discovered Mokrin15’s mother in the same burial complex. She is grave 181. Well have a look at their ancestry components. Grave 181...
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    J2b2-L283 (proto-illyrian)

    It’s going to be pretty hard to top the kidnapped Kura-Araxes kid, but then again, nothing surprises me anymore.
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    J2b2-L283 (proto-illyrian)

    Question: Do you believe that Y DNA and autosomal DNA are the same thing? FYI, this guy is J1a CTS463. Do you belong to this lineage now?
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    J2b2-L283 (proto-illyrian)

    It’s a bit of a head scratcher because that Henry Shephard, who was one of the authors from the Southern Arc study, explicitly mentions that bone samples were sent from Purcari, Moldova and Giurgiulesti, Moldova to Harvard’s Reich Lab for sequencing to be included in that study. These are very...
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    J2b2-L283 (proto-illyrian)

    If you think J2b L283 is bad, take a look at R1b M269. Which island were they on? https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-M269/
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    J2b2-L283 (proto-illyrian)

    I’ll have to find the blog entry from Davidski w/ his commentary about the area around the NW Black Sea region already being Yamnaya like around 4000 BC. To be clear, I have no idea if these early branches have anything to do with this. It’s just that there was a lot of activity in that area...
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    J2b2-L283 (proto-illyrian)

    Remember, not everything needs to be a disaster in order for a group to move. I realize you’re not a big fan of the steppe hypothesis as it relates to the spread of J2b L283 further west into Pannonia and the Balkans. Starting around 4200BC there was a terrible freeze that impacted much of...
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    J2b, From Eluri/Alluria (Luristan) to Illyria (Illuría)

    He’s in there somewhere. Might be in the supplementary section. Sample: NEO281 J2b. 100% CHG.
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    J2b, From Eluri/Alluria (Luristan) to Illyria (Illuría)

    https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.05.04.490594v1
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    J2b, From Eluri/Alluria (Luristan) to Illyria (Illuría)

    The oldest J2b ever discovered is from 10,000 years ago in Kotias Cave, Georgia. He was 100% CHG. So these J2b lineages from Iran represent a migration out of the Caucasus into Iran and beyond. There is no connection between these J2b groups in Europe and Iran, except to say that they descend...
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    J2b2-L283 (proto-illyrian)

    It’s possible there is a misunderstanding. My interpretation is that, like myself, you’re very interested in now establishing the deeper origins of haplogroup J2b L283 beyond the Balkans and before the Illyrian people or Proto Illyrian people formed. This last data dump from the Southern Arc...
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    To burn or not to burn: LBA/EIA Balkan case

    Any idea when this Pannonia study will be published??
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    J2b2-L283 (proto-illyrian)

    Do you have a link to this study that references the above sample? This guy looks a bit like my great grandfather.
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    David Reich Southern Arc Paper Abstract

    We should know more soon. I think they may have discovered 2 different “Yamnaya” paternal lineages that originated south of the Caucasus and then moved on to the steppe. At least that’s how I interpret it. According to Reich: “A striking signal of steppe migration into the Southern Arc is...
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    David Reich Southern Arc Paper Abstract

    Basically, Maciamo Hay has R1b M269 and all descendent branches traced back to the eastern wing of the southern arc. This was his theory from more than 10 years ago.
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    David Reich Southern Arc Paper Abstract

    The owner of Eupedia believes that R-M269 descends from the Southern Arc and crossed the Caucasus on to the steppe sometime in the 5th millennium BC. https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_R1b_Y-DNA.shtml
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    J2b2-L283 (proto-illyrian)

    Here are a couple links to studies…the second link I’ve seen posted either here or Anthrogenica (RIP) by Trojet. That’s probably the best article I’ve read to date, at least as it pertains to Cetina. In the first link, Pages 173-174 have an interesting couple paragraphs regarding the difficulty...
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    Is anthrogenica.com gone?

    https://forums.familytreedna.com/forum/general-interest/dna-and-genealogy-for-beginners/9285-dna-forums-down Here’s a good discussion thread from when DNA Forums suddenly disappeared for good back in 2012. It’s a carbon copy of what has just happened at Anthrogenica. I think Anthrogenica is dead.
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    I2a2 lineage of Cucuteni-Tripolye Culture

    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-022-11117-8#MOESM2 There was some ancient I2a in Cucuteni Trypillians in this recent study.
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