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Those locations all look familiar to me. So my very unscientific take is that these are all the same samples previously mentioned from 2022.

My family is from Arizona here in the United States and this last summer was, by a wide margin, the worst we’ve ever seen through the generations. Typically the severity of a summer here is measured by the number of days at 110 degrees F or above per year. We typically average around 20. This...

Shkrel and Cinamak in Albania. These are from the Southern Arc study.

Here is that model of the J2b L283 (I18746) and R1b Z2118 (I18752) samples from the Cetina Valley in Croatia (2000-1600 BCE) by user “Vladimir” over at Eurogenes. I think this one is a screenshot I took from Anthrogenica before it closed up shop.

I think these 2 slides from the same study might hint at an additional J2b L283 Maros sample, perhaps western Yamnaya derived based on what Huban mentioned about the autosomal composition: Far right column above = Bronze Age samples with one J2b L283 (Approx 2100 BCE, assuming Maros). White...

I remember user “Asburg” (spelling?), or “Huban” mentioning these samples as well. He had indicated there was another J2b L283 dated to about 2000 BCE from this paper. I believe the sample, based on what he claimed, came from Szeged, Hungary. This is not too far from Mokrin, Serbia…a little...

It looks like both NEO281 and KK1 can be modeled as approximately 80% Progress CHG. Exhibit A: At the same time, I’ve seen some people produce models that show anywhere from 15% to 30% Meshoko ancestry contained within Progress. Even Davidski acknowledges now that this is the case over at...

Fair post. What I would add is that this thread started way back in 2017. This was before we had any ancient L283 samples. The I4331 Croatia sample wasn’t published until the following year, I believe. So it has been eye opening to see the evolution of ancient J2b L283 finds along the...

Well, between you and the last guy a few posts ago, I think we’ve seen 2 of the dumbest posts in Eupedia history, which is quite remarkable. Nice job. Efficient, too. The J2b L283 ILLYRIAN and MYCENAEAN samples up and down the eastern Adriatic coast from Slovenia to Greece do all the talking...

Congratulations on a really, really dumb post. 2000+ posts in this thread and nearly 500,000 views, I think yours might just be the apex of moronia. Fortunately ancient DNA is not your friend and summarily refutes virtually all of your claims. I don’t have the time to address all of them...

Here’s a preprint that does a pretty good job of covering some of these questions about who were the Illyrians and the contact zone to their north. All of this was in the context of trying to pin down the origins of the Albanian language. J2b L283 is a bit of a mysterious lineage just like the...

That all sounds correct to me. Corded Ware / Bell Beaker groups being derived ultimately from somewhere in the forest steppe and Catacomb/Yamnaya associated groups moving through the dry steppe closer to the Black Sea coast and working their way into the Balkans via the Danube or straight...

I think you’re hitting all the big points and your understanding is pretty strong given the fact that you only recently started reading up on these topics. Though not R1b-L2, there was also an R1b Z2118 discovered in the Cetina Valley as part of the Cetina finds in Croatia...

Both NEO281 and the original Kotias, KK1, share the same maternal lineage. Yes, formation could have been closer to the Balkans, but I still think the L283 Nal’chik sample points to possible origination somewhere in the NW Caucasus, especially with a Mesolithic formation date for J2b L283...

Mesolithic Caucasus Hunter Gatherer (CHG) J2b2 sample from Kotias Klde (NEO281) is undergoing analysis for final placement on YFull YTree: https://www.yfull.com/tree/J-M102/ Late Neolithic similarity map shows affinity with Meshoko Darkveti people from NW Caucasus and Black Sea coast near...

Are there any concrete explanations for this trend here in America? It is troubling because of the implications of obesity on short term and long term healthcare needs/requirements amongst the general population. We smoke less it seems compared to past generations (which is obviously good)...

Gordinesti is too far north in Moldova in my opinion. I think Gordinesti was more toward these Cucuteni Trypillian people. My best guess is that if Novodanilovka, Cernavoda, or Usatovo are relevant, then closer to Black Sea coast and associated tributaries (rivers). Seems like papers are...

I don’t know the reason why these samples from the NWBSR are delayed, but my hunch is they are probably meticulously checking all of the samples for “reservoir effect” and trying to ensure the samples are properly dated. Moldova/Ukraine samples anywhere near the Black Sea or large rivers that...

Not at all. That’s why I pointed out in my “Mokrin Beast” post that 2 of the male samples with lower steppe and higher “Aegean” ancestry belonged to R Z2103, a dominant Yamnaya line. By 2000 BC, there were no more samples there in the Balkans that arrived from the steppe that were rich in only...

I’m hesitant to even refer to these people as “Aegean” because I think this is probably the same thing as EEF, or Early European Farmer, ancestry. This was the dominant ancestry component there throughout the Balkans prior to the arrival of Yamnaya rich populations...