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And we have the BigY result for this Armenian. A very interesting result: He is J-L283* and also negative for around 7 L283 SNPs, maybe a few more. So he splits the J-L283 node, probably around 6000 ybp or not far from its current TMRCA. This means the European branches J-Z600 and J-BY55372>YP29...

Indeed. And the J-YP9 clade in Sardinia likely has a fairly high TMRCA as there is two Sardinians there sharing only three SNPs among themselves, probably similar TMRCA to its "brother" J-Z38300. Yes, not saying J-L283 arrived there right at 1200 BCE, just that it's not native to Sardinia like...

Bingo. In addition to both being J-Y15058+, they have very similar Autosomal components. So IMO, this "Etruscan clade" is very likely a migrant from accros the Adriatic, and not the other way around. Hehe, no matter how many times you bring these "old Sardinian clades", to me it's evident...

Today I noticed an interesting new BigY result for J-L283 research. Someone who seems to be with origin from Alsace (France/Germany border region), splits the J-YP29 clade, which is one of the rare J-L283 branches, parallel to the more popular J-Z600. He is only positive for one SNP, with the...

An interesting J2b-L283 in ancient DNA from: https://science.sciencemag.org/content/366/6466/708 Sample R474, Civitavecchia, Etruscan, 700-600 BCE (Iron Age/Roman Republic) is: J2b-L283>>Z597>Y15058>CTS6190 Furthermore, he is positive for three Private SNPs of YF03795 USA. So he creates a...

The "formed age" of a clade is always the TMRCA of the one it descends from. So in this case, the formed age of R-YP3994 should be ~2400 ybp (the TMRCA of R-Y2902). It's nice that you have ordered the BigY. You will get a TMRCA estimate with the Italian from Palermo, which should be less than...

Interesting. I would guess this is the haplotype with 388=16, 389=13-29 where the Albanian J-Z631>Thaçi-Korbi belongs. The reason is because one such haplotype recently tested as J-Z1043* on their YSEQ group ;) The Greek who did BigY didn't have any reads for Z1043, so we now know the 388=16 &...

^ As usual, Sile posting nonsense 😂

Yes, they have it available in their catalog. But sometimes not every known SNP/subclade is included in a Panel. By inquiring, I meant in case they don't automatically test you for it, I would ask them if they will test it as part of the J2b-M12 Panel that you ordered, so you don't have to order...

Yes, CTS3617 is at the same level as Y15058, so you will be positive. Z590 is at the same level as L283, so that one will be positive as well. You can find all this info in the YFull tree. All equivalent SNPs are listed next to the corresponding clade. For example at J-Y15058 there is a total of...

There is actually a division within J-Y40288 as suggested by scientific samples from the Phille Hallast study. As can be seen below, PH1568 is one of the upstream SNPs, so YSEQ should test you for PH3514 next.

Nice, it seems YSEQ nailed your "terminal" subclade rather quickly. PH1568 is equivalent to YFull's J-Y40288. So your phylogentic position is: J-L283>...>Y15058>Z38240>PH1602>PH1568,Y40288: https://www.yfull.com/tree/J-Y15058/ As you can see, including PH1568 there is a total of 16 SNPs at...

Yes, I haven't seen any DYS456=12 (J-PH1602) among Albanians as of yet. There is actually one, but he is a match to the J-CTS11100*>Hoti Cluster, so he should have a recent mutation from 13>12 there. Alternatively, I haven't ran into any J-Z38300 north of Montenegro, unless we're talking of some...

I see he has accumulated 23 out of 23 negative votes in just three posts. That must be a record :lmao:

And also, let's remind this Serb that J2b2-L283 was found in the West Balkans, radiocarbon dated at ~3600 ybp. Yet, he is suggesting it came only in the last 1400 years with the Bulgars and such. Not only is he embarrassing himself in an international forum, he is also showing his true colors...

Thanks for the update. I see YSEQ doesn't test for Z38240. So you could theoretically be J-Z38240* (PH1602- CTS6190-): https://www.yfull.com/tree/J-Y15058/. Either way, you do belong to the same sub-branch as I4331 from MBA Croatia, which actually was also Y15058+ aka CTS3617, and negative on...

Hi and congrats on your result. As already mentioned, J-L283 is ~5400 year old mutation, and it has many subsequent younger subclades. Unfortunately, 23andMe doesn't test for its subclades, except Z631 in some cases. So if you are classified as J-L283, odds are you have tested L283+ Z631- and...

Great! I suppose you're testing the J2b-M12 Panel at YSEQ. As it stands, you might also end up under J-Y146400. If not, you will be in the J-Y15058 branch aka J-CTS3617, the same as I4331 MBA Dalmatia. Either way, do let us know where you end up..

Your closest STR match is someone with a Spanish sounding surname. Forget about fantasizing of Phoenicians, Carthagenians, etc. There is practically zero L283 in those regions. The only L283 cluster in Lebanon has Balkan/European origin, as has been demonstrated to you here countless of times...

@Wanderer, quite honestly, I'm not even sure where to begin to clean up your walls of nonsense, but I will single out a few... How hard is it for you to understand that J-Z597 is the ancestor of J-Y146400 and J-Z2507. So yes, the latter two are brother clades. Both of them are found among...