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No they are not, and certainly not only by certain historians. Nearly every respectable historian, who wrote about Hellenic genesis, wrote the same story, including Herodotus, Stabo, Hecateus of Miletus just to mention some. If we want to appear selective, by considering this part of Hellenic...

I can't. There is no room for my interpretation. Also what appears to be true that the name Hellenes, is a distortion of Hylleans or Hyllinoi, probably in their dialect.

Hylleans named after Hyllus (Ὕλλος) also Hyllas [Ὕλᾱς] or Hylles that's all we have about Greek history Yes The main one actually, the king of Heracleidae who created Hellenes I will get back to you, with an answer, when science filters out all the absurdities of Greek mythology, or...

You fake Albanian account, need to read this: https://books.google.ca/books?id=ADJSja39XQQC&pg=PA13&lpg=PA13&dq=hylleans+illyrian+race&source=bl&ots=4-jFv8ezbu&sig=qbhDrWvePTbJtea8EKyr9naFIXQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjL4eWUorDbAhWj0YMKHZkPB9UQ6AEINTAB#v=onepage&q&f=false

What Yetos' saying seems to be true, but Yetos have some difficulties to name Mycenaens and Proper Hellenes with their real actual name. Mycaneans were a mixture of Pelasgians with Danaic people, while Hellenes were mainly Illyrians represented from Hylleans(or the Heraclidae named by...

You did !? This is outstanding, but seems a wasted talent to deal with normal people, who are not so opportunists to go within the limits of the conventional science, and to be called stupid and outlandish just because they don't want to stick to the mainstream, which in fact is not that...

Is it there a possibility that instead all of them being all wrong in every aspect to the point you consider their beliefs as nonsense it is you that might not have sufficient knowledge about linguistics, languages, ethnography, history, epigraphy and many other disciplines necessary to rule...

By saying Yetos is wrong when he claims old Macedonians and Epirotes as Greeks, you basically agree with all Albanian posters, who were saying the same thing, but paradoxically you label them ultra-nationalists. It's very confusing.

So you are saying he is clearly wrong when he said Mycenaeans are not Greeks and Old Epirotes and Macedonians were Greeks. And by saying this he behaves as an ultra-nationalist, right? And this as bad as some Albanian posters. You got me all confused, on every sentence.

So Mycaneans were not Greeks?

I never mentioned you or made presumption about your discretion and I never made an inflammatory comment. In fact I don't know you, or even care who you are. I only pointed out the fact that he's been banned, because other members are still quoting him, and I assumed they haven't had noticed...

He's been banned I think.

Hatred involved.

This is great Zeus10 , an exact year means a lot. BTW if the year zero starts at 5509 BCE, this means 2818 byzant. has to be 2691 BCE. Right?

Thank you hrvclv, for the detailed information. At first when I saw 2600 years old, made me very happy, a little dissapointed when I saw Latins were included in the cart.

I opened a topic about the French language, but the topic was closed before I had a chance to talk. One sentence intrigued me though*****Their evolution can be traced back all the way to their beginnings, with rock-solid evidence for each and every change over 2600 years.*********is it true...

Yetos you are making unnecessary comments. My topic was intended about centum and satem, I find nothing wrong with Zeus10 answer who you are misquoting.

So no modern sound, but old sounds, how old? I don't know palatvelur, you as a linguist understand them. What happened to them? Did they become something to make French today satem language?

Your answer is making me more confused. If this has nothing to do with sounds what else is out there we're talking about

I speak French, a centum language, and my understanding is that centum uses k in front of 100, but French uses s sound. I am confused. Can someone explain this to me?