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    Turks with 10 - 25% Mongoloid admixture ( Turkish people autosomal DNA )

    I have made no claim about N being this or that. It is just one gene, it says nothing about race. In the case of Latvians and Finns, we have N-rich causaoid peoples. In the case of Nganassan, N-rich mongoloid. N is older and more widespread than the comb-ceramic culture. The comb-ceramic in...
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    Turks with 10 - 25% Mongoloid admixture ( Turkish people autosomal DNA )

    Why wouldn't one believe scientific consensus on something as non-controversial as Uralic Linguistics? The original language spoken in Lapland is usually considered to be the substrate for non-Uralic, non-Indo-European words in Saami. The region was inhabited before the Saami-speakers arrived...
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    Turks with 10 - 25% Mongoloid admixture ( Turkish people autosomal DNA )

    And it would be a huge coincidence if it could somehow be proven that those buried spoke Uralic languages (which it cant, of course). Again, archaeological cultures say nothing about languages spoken, certainly not cultures as wide and old as the comb-ceramic. The source isn't lying, but you...
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    Turks with 10 - 25% Mongoloid admixture ( Turkish people autosomal DNA )

    As I said before, the Proto-Uralic language can only be reconstructed to the time of the Urheimat, 4000 BC, so any theories on where the Proto-Uralics came before that are just speculation. Could be West, could be East, there is no proof. Lexically Uralic languages are closer to PIE than any...
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    Turks with 10 - 25% Mongoloid admixture ( Turkish people autosomal DNA )

    The comb-ceramic culture is today considered to have arrived in Europe before Uralic languages. We dont know what language or genes the bearers of the culture had, but it would be a huge coincidence if it was just one language and one gene profile. Archeological cultures cannot be seen as proof...
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    K12 Autosomal map : East European admixture (from Dodecad)

    One reason why Eastern Europe shows up as such a strong cluster in many analyses is probably the spread of Slavic languages and culture. The Slavic family expanded over a very wide area and will affect clustering.
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    Turks with 10 - 25% Mongoloid admixture ( Turkish people autosomal DNA )

    I dont know what research that is that you are referring to, but according to current theories, Uralics began expanding from their Urheimat in the Volga-Ural region as recently as 4000 BC. The Samoyedic groups were the first to depart, going East. Of course, where the proto-Uralics came from...
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    Turks with 10 - 25% Mongoloid admixture ( Turkish people autosomal DNA )

    The Siberian admixture is small in West Finns and Estonians, and largely missing in Veps and Latvians, who descend from Uralic-speaking peoples (Livonian in the case of Latvians). We also know from linguistics that early Uralics had close contacts with proto-Indo-Europeans, of which very few...
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    Turks with 10 - 25% Mongoloid admixture ( Turkish people autosomal DNA )

    My thoughts also. Could it actually vary as much ad Gurk atla suggests? It must be spread very evenly considering that the admixture is between 1500 and 500 years old.
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    Haplogroup N1c is Mongoloid / Siberian ?

    So to answer the question in the topic - N in Europe originally came from Asia, but N-rich people were completly assimilated into the European gene pool. Of course, Siberian people are also N-rich. So there is no clear correlation between N and East Asian genes.
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    How many children do we need to be sure to pass on all our DNA ?

    Assuming that only complete halves of the chromosomes are inheried, I guess that if you had about 100-200 children, you could be pretty sure of passing on at least on copy of every half of each of your chromosomes? This is of course not the case, so I guess the answer is that you need to have an...
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    Scandinavian origin of the Rurikid N1c1 lineage from Central Sweden

    This is very interesting - the fact that there is an N which is unique to Sweden shows that it is a very old haplogroup in Europe. It most certainly predates that arrival of Finns, and maybe also the arrival of comb-ceramic pottery?
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    Haplogroup N and the Finns

    Really? Do you actually think that a 5-6% share of the genome could be so visible? Especially considering how ancient the admixture is, how evenly the genes must be spread out. What you see is probably the result of genetic drift and missing out on otherwise common European genes. Different...
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    Haplogroup N and the Finns

    I think this post is the most correct. As stated, high N correlates with high Northern European/mesolithic genes. Finns have gotten their Siberian admixture from somewhere else - its was probably not an ancestral component carried from the Uralic Urheimat. There is of course no doubt that N come...
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    Haplogroup N1c is Mongoloid / Siberian ?

    In Dienekes K13 analysis Nganassan, Evenk and Yakut have highest, above 80%. Their autosomal DNA is probably not exactly the same as East Asians, however. They have East Asian genes, European genes, and proabably genes of their own. 9.3% for Finns seems high - most estimates are in the range...
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    New map of East Asian autosomal admixtures in Europe and the Middle East

    Related yes, but hardly a sub-group. Siberian peoples probably do not have all genes that characterize East Asians. They have a surprising load of North European genes also, looking at cluster analyses.
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    New map of East Asian autosomal admixtures in Europe and the Middle East

    Exactly - the map would be more interesting, if it showed Siberian instead of East Asian admixture. Of course there has never been any actual East Asian admixture in for example Finland. Rather, the East Asian-like genes have come from Siberian peoples, which themselves have partly North...
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