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Well, we have the following evidence: .) Autosomal proportions which fit either Thracians of various kind or a Thracian-Etruscan mix .) E-V13 patrilineages from Thracians .) Dating which fits post-UF to Pre-Roman period .) General region (SW Europe) .) IBD sharing of the mixed individuals and...

From 400 BC and earlier we have now multiple confirmed E-V13 individuals from SW Europe, most seem to be from Italy: us...

There are more very old samples from SW Europe - one belongs to E-PH3589, downstream of the Northern-Central branch of E-Y3183. From about 800-700 BC...

The new Akbari samples from Italy prove that at least SOME Thracians (and Greeks) came to the Etruscan/North Italian sphere. This is no longer about speculating around, this is about multiple actual finds from Italy dated between 800-300 BC which prove this unambiguously. If they were West...

I should add that the Etruscans plot completely outside of the Thracian range. E-V13 plots all over the place, but the Etruscan core being not covered. So similar to the South Thracian outliers, this half-Etruscan immediately sticks out: It is truly remarkable that even an individual with...

Usually its about a combination of uniparentals (yDNA and mtDNA already found in Etruscans), dating and Region (SW and before the Roman era Iron Age) and IBD sharing among themselves and with known Etruscan samples. The E-V13 is a full blown Thracian and in the data base we only see a...

I didn't write about a major influence in Etruscans, but just gene flow. The question is just whether this gene flow came via intermediaries (say Thraco-Cimmerian, Vekerzug, Eastern Hallstatt groups) or more directly (from Dacian and Thracian core groups in the East). The new sample has proven...

So far, what we can say with certainty, is that there was a migration of Daco-Thracians into Northern Italy and into Etruscan communities. This resulted in widespread IBD sharing between Daco-Thracians and Etruscans/North Italians. Just yesterday I found an individual case of a Thracian founder...

All the older Thracians appear to have their closest steppe matches with Carpatho-Danubian/Danube-Tisza Yamnaya so far. Like Northern Bulgaria, Eastern Hungary and Slovakia.

Well, we have LBA-EIA samples of Thracians from Greece and Macedonia. Typically, most are females or very mixed, like expected, because of practically all regulars being cremated. Therefore for proving early Thracian presence, females with Thracian profiles and IBD sharing will be as crucial as...

Cotofeni had kind of two big steppe contacts: 1) Early Western steppe like from Suvorovo, Usatovo-Gorodsk and probably mainly Cernavoda I. 2) Yamnaya and Vucedol which helped to initiate the formation of Gornea-Orlesti-Foeni. The latter is most likely the last common layer for all Thracians and...

I41062 4450 SE E-BY190131 His haplogroup is too young and he plots in a manner which doesn't fit. His IBD matches too look too modern and his closest match is from 1700 BP. There appear to be a couple of misdated samples. The oldest genuinely Thracian individual is, like I had...

We need Cotofeni samples to be sure. Because if Cotofeni was still like Bodrogkeresztur, so completely local dominated, despite small steppe, then its possible.

Its nice to have it still, yes, but no more downstream differentiation below E, especially in North Africa, is like a joke.

If you combined E-V13 finds, autosomal Thracian shift in groups and multiple individuals, as well as IBD sharing, you get this map for the Early Iron Age distribution: The only significant element left out are the Phrygians, with the Balkan-shifted, increased steppe E-V13 from the Phrygian...

Based on the data, it is very likely that the E-L618 lineages in Varna came from Tiszpolgar-Bodrogkeresztur. Unfortunately we don't have the sample from Tripolye-Cucuteni and Usatovo in the IBD data base. What I could do was checking if the Verteba cave TCC individuals have indeed...

The new E-L618, E-CTS1975 -> PF2252 sample which looks basically like Danubian CA (could be either Bodrogkeresztur or Varna, rather, mixed with Salcuta?) with increased steppe: If plotting him beside the other early E-L618 in the data base, you can clearly see that he plots the closest to the...

When realising that I20184 is for sure Aegean-Anatolian admixed and having close matches from the Greek sphere, I still saw a problem: Her Greek-like matches don't look like the ideal source of the admixture. The admixture looks more Minoan-like, but definitely not Minoan-proper, but still...

Keep in mind that these are just guesses based on rough similarity by the creators. We don't have the actual context of these samples. And e.g. https://discover.familytreedna.com/y-dna/E-FT64983/tree is an Iron Age branch, so by itself unlikely to be from the BA. Even more, in the BA Epiros...

Since I41598 seems to be likely the oldest and most important sample for E-V13 in the whole set, I did try to find out even more about his IBD matches and the results are absolutely striking: I41598.TW<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; NEO147.SG 15.09 MN Tisza, very high ANF...