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Based on Dodecad K12b Ancient, they are closest to Greek_Crete. I recall seeing it is the same for Eurogenes K15, as well. However, it puts Puglesi as in the 9+ distance too.

[TABLE="class: distances, width: 0"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]R1548_Imperial_Era_Monterotondo[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]3.02711083[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Greek_Crete[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]6.65262809[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Italy_Calabria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]8.67914166[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Ashkenazy_Jews[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]8.73617571[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Italy_Campania[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]8.84331075[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Italy_Sicily[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]8.91266515[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Sephardic_Jews[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]9.47789006[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Ashkenazi[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]9.94129609[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Italy_Apulia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]10.89483364[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Greek_Cappadocia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]11.04287814[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Italy_Abruzzo[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]11.50332995[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Crimean_Tatar_Coast[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]12.46487064[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Turk_West_BlackSea[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]12.84234792[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Turk_Central_West[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]13.04451226[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Nusayri_Turkey[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]13.36422089[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Greek[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]13.36713133[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Morocco_Jews[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]13.72470765[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Cypriots[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]13.89522940[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Turk_Anatolia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]13.95168807[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Turk_Central_East[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]14.53214368[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Turk_Southwest[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]15.01181535[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Turk_Northwest[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]15.53595507[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Turk_South[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]15.67329257[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Turk_Central_Black_Sea[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]15.88400768[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Turk_Southeast[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]16.16440225[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Crimean_Tatar_Mountain[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
 
Jovialis said:
Here is the PCA with the first match of the various samples from Antonio et. al 2019, circled in red:

QejVBiQ.png


MTA gives me R1548, as my first as well. I think the main issue with having R1548 as a first match, even at 9+ distance, is that it is too way out there to make sense; there are should be closer samples. It falls outside of the range of Southern Italy. I believe R1548 clusters with Cretan Greeks, if I recall. All of the other calculators, even Eurogenes K15 (mistakenly put as K16 here) put me in the range of Southern Italians. For some reason MTA isn't assigning what should be closer matches before R1548.
Click to expand...

do2EPUk.png


Here is the MTA PCA vs the PCA from Antonio et al. 2019, they are very different in terms of the plots. I think something is off with the MTA PCA, tbh. For example, R65 is not supposed to be south of R1548. Other samples are out of wack, as well.

It is very hard to get these calculators to be accurate. I recently was endeavoring to make one with someone I was coordinating with, and it is not a simple task, unfortunately. Especially when working with Ancient DNA. Nevertheless, Dienekes definitely knew what he was doing, despite, the calculator being 8 years old.
 
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Salento/Jovialis: I get R1548 as my closest Roman distance on MTA as well. MTA PCA Plot. So Need to look at this again vs. the other calculators Does this look out of wack to you all?

MTA_ClosestIronAge.JPGMTA_ClosestRomanAge.jpgMTA_AncientPCA.jpg
 
^It looks normal for what MTA gives Southern Italians, nonetheless, it is inaccurate compared to the study, and what other calculators show.

Here is mine:

1. Hellenic Roman Monterotondo (165 AD) ..... 6.889 - R1548 -
Top
99 %​
match vs all users​

2. Hellenic Roman (590 AD) ..... 8.619 - SZ40 - ?
Top
99 %​
match vs all users​

3. Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1100 AD) ..... 8.685 - R65 -
Top
99 %​
match vs all users​

4. Hellenic Roman Marcellino (400 AD) ..... 8.825 - R136 -
Top
99 %​
match vs all users​

5. Hellenic Roman Casale del Dolce (145 AD) ..... 9.223 - R123 -
Top
99 %​
match vs all users​

6. Hellenic Roman / Cretan (580 AD) ..... 10.26 - CL38 -
Top
99 %​
match vs all users​

7. Roman Imperial Palestrina (100 AD) ..... 10.29 - R436 -
Top
99 %​
match vs all users​

8. Hellenic Roman Mausoleo Augusto (500 AD) ..... 10.55 - R34 -
Top
99 %​
match vs all users​

9. Imperial Rome Empire Via Paisiello (100 AD) ..... 10.84 - R114 -
Top
98 %​
match vs all users​

10. Hellenic Roman Marcellino (400 AD) ..... 10.84 - R133 -
Top
99 %​
match vs all users​
 
Jovialis: Ok, thanks, looks like we are in the same basic area code. But I don't get R1548 as 1 in any of the other calculators that you and other Eupedia Team members put together the ancient Roman sample coordinates. So as Salento noted, hopefully they can clean up their model by seeing why it is not providing similar results as the other models provide as they have a good overall product in my view.
 
Jovialis: Just for quick reference I posted a few of the top distances for Dodecad 12, 7B, World 9, MDLP16 and Eurogenes K13 and K15 and they all give different distances and #1 closest than MTA. As you noted, MTA used a modified version of Eurogenes K15 and it is not giving me R1548. In the Eurogenes K15, R1548 is a distance of 12.14 (#43)

Distance to: PalermoTrapani (Dodecad 12B)
2.59038607 R56_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
2.76190152 R52_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna

Distance to: PalermoTrapani (Dodecad 7B)
0.83982141 R437_Iron_Age_Palestrina_Selicata
1.42656931 R131_Imperial_Era_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis

Distance to: PalermoTrapani (Dodecad World 9)
1.10476242 R35_Late_Antiquity_Celio
1.31628264 R58_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
1.32676298 R122_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
1.53642442 R437_Iron_Age_Palestrina_Selicata


Distance to: PalermoTrapani (MDLP 16)
2.96079381 R131_Imperial_Era_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
3.04921301 R117_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
3.11865356 R47_Imperial_Era_Centocelle_Necropolis

Distance to: PalermoTrapani (Eurogenes K13)
2.83136010 SZ40_Hungary_Langobard_1442_ybp
3.06674094 R52_Lazio_Rome_Late_Medieval_Italy

Distance to: PalermoTrapani (Eurogenes K15)
5.54341050 R56_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
6.09360320 R835_Imperial_Era_Civitanova_Marche
6.24213105 R437_Iron_Age_Palestrina_Selicata
 
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Ancient PCA: default and Top 20:
(my default Ancient PCA is hard to read, many samples are on top of each other)

Default:
ByDr6rb.jpg


Top 20:
qxfX3C6.jpg
 
Salento in regards to your post #2665, mine in #2661 has the same issue, hard to read due to samples plotting together.
 
We could have easily blended in, if we lived in their time :)
 
So within couple of days not only did we invalidate Gedrosia calculators as trash but now MTA's calculators and PCA plots are highly suspect. Good job comrades!
 
^^Well, I'd say it's clear that the Gedrosia K3 doesn't work at all, and the others are a bit all over the place.

MTA seems to be extremely close in structure to Eurogenes K15 and in both of them the distances for northern Europeans are good, but not for southern Europeans. Now, someone could say that maybe that's just because northerners are more homogenized and have been subject to fewer population movements.

However, if that is the case, why does the K13 produce closer distances for Southern Europeans. I thought it was acknowledged even by Eurogenes fans that it's a "better" calculator.

Then there's the issue raised by Jovialis that the PCAs based on the Dodecad calculators are closer to the academic models. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but at least with academics there are enough honest ones around checking the complete data sets and algorithms provided that I have more confidence in them.

So, until further notice I'll stick with the dodecad based ones.

Btw, I remember getting the closest distances with K7. Does anyone have a link to the post where the coordinates are posted? I seem to have misplaced them. I don't think they're available for the Thracians etc.
 
Angela said:
^^Well, I'd say it's clear that the Gedrosia K3 doesn't work at all, and the others are a bit all over the place.

MTA seems to be extremely close in structure to Eurogenes K15 and in both of them the distances for northern Europeans are good, but not for southern Europeans. Now, someone could say that maybe that's just because northerners are more homogenized and have been subject to fewer population movements.

However, if that is the case, why does the K13 produce closer distances for Southern Europeans. I thought it was acknowledged even by Eurogenes fans that it's a "better" calculator.

Then there's the issue raised by Jovialis that the PCAs based on the Dodecad calculators are closer to the academic models. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but at least with academics there are enough honest ones around checking the complete data sets and algorithms provided that I have more confidence in them.

So, until further notice I'll stick with the dodecad based ones.

Btw, I remember getting the closest distances with K7. Does anyone have a link to the post where the coordinates are posted? I seem to have misplaced them. I don't think they're available for the Thracians etc.
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R dodecad K7 coordinates link (by Jovialis)

https://www.eupedia.com/forum/threa...s-Calculators)?p=599924&viewfull=1#post599924


the others:

https://www.eupedia.com/forum/threa...s-Calculators)?p=600178&viewfull=1#post600178

 
Salento it's obvious why you have some great matches with all these ancient peoples. You live in the past and you are a time traveler! No other explanation makes sense:grin:.
 
Just as a BTW, K13 and K15 are much better for me than Dodecad 12b.
 
@bigsnake49
I posted the Rs Dodecad K7, not K12 :)
(last post)

... thanks, I get those matches thanks to my Parents, ... I’m sure you get your matches from yours too, lol
 
Gedrosia K3 makes me 50% Bedouin + 50% Greek at a distance of 0.0000.

Dodecad K7b makes me 63% English from Kent and 37% Algerian, at a distance of 1.78.

+@

[TD="align: center"] # [/TD]

[TD="colspan: 3"] Primary Population (source) [/TD]
[TD="colspan: 3"] Secondary Population (source) [/TD]
[TD="align: right"] Distance [/TD]

[TD="align: center"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 15"][/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: right"]63.4%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]Kent (1000Genomes)[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: right"]36.6%[/TD]
[TD="width: 200"]Algerian (Dodecad)[/TD]

[TD="width: 50, align: right"]1.78[/TD]

In the Dodecad K7b "4 populations approximation" mode, I capture this ones, for example:

Using 4 populations approximation:
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Belorussian_Behar + Hungarians_Behar + Moroccans_Behar + Murcia_1000Genomes @ 1.859773

None of these populations have a direct relationship to my ancestry. Indirectely, maybe, only the old Moroccans and directly the Spanish from Murcia.

I am an Iberian basically Portuguese, but about 25% of my ancestry is from Spain (Galicia + Andalusia). In all calculators that include subpopulations of the Iberian Peninsula, my better results are in the mixed mode than in single mode.

Surely the Gedrosia K3 and Dodecad K7b calculators don't work well on my autosomal raw data.
 
K7b: I'm closer to some of the Iron Age samples, with distances of 7 and 8, but still not really close on this, and the Protovillanovan is around a 6. Like Bigsnake, I'm sort of betwixt and between.

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]angela[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #C2FF00, align: right"]5.71735953[/TD]
[TD]R33_Late_Antiquity_Mausole_di_Augusto[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #C3FF00, align: right"]5.72271789[/TD]
[TD]R1285_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D0FF00, align: right"]6.11417206[/TD]
[TD]R1287_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D5FF00, align: right"]6.25399073[/TD]
[TD]R55_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D8FF00, align: right"]6.34234184[/TD]
[TD]R1_Iron_Age_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #EAFF00, align: right"]6.88899848[/TD]
[TD]R36_Late_Antiquity_Celio[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F3FF00, align: right"]7.14289857[/TD]
[TD]R474_Iron_Age_Civitavecchia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FAFF00, align: right"]7.36155554[/TD]
[TD]R111_Imperial_Era_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFA00, align: right"]7.63729664[/TD]
[TD]R1283_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFEF00, align: right"]7.95746191[/TD]
[TD]R105_Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFE900, align: right"]8.15919114[/TD]
[TD]R120_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFE500, align: right"]8.27842980[/TD]
[TD]R1016_Iron_Age_Castel_di_Decima[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFCB00, align: right"]9.02724210[/TD]
[TD]R110_Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFA100, align: right"]10.27778673[/TD]
[TD]R1015_Iron_Age_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF8A00, align: right"]10.93756829[/TD]
[TD]R473_Iron_Age_Civitavecchia
[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
Of course, it doesn't contain the Szolad, Collegno, or Balkan Bronze Age samples which usually come up for me.

K12b
[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]angela[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D7FF00, align: right"]6.31505344[/TD]
[TD]Szolad43[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #DDFF00, align: right"]6.50777996[/TD]
[TD]I3313_Balkans_BronzeAge[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #E0FF00, align: right"]6.58852032[/TD]
[TD]I8475_NE_Iberia_RomP_atypical[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #E4FF00, align: right"]6.70063430[/TD]
[TD]I2176_Balkans_BronzeAge[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #EEFF00, align: right"]7.00276374[/TD]
[TD]R1287_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFA00, align: right"]7.63776145[/TD]
[TD]R1285_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFF100, align: right"]7.90661116[/TD]
[TD]scy197_Scythian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFED00, align: right"]8.03440104[/TD]
[TD]Szolad28[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFEC00, align: right"]8.06378943[/TD]
[TD]I3499_NWBalkans_PannonianPlain_Vucedol_EN[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFE500, align: right"]8.27787412[/TD]
[TD]I2175_Balkans_BronzeAge[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFDA00, align: right"]8.58760735[/TD]
[TD]I1979_Bronze_Age_Beaker_Northern_Italy[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFD700, align: right"]8.68103680[/TD]
[TD]Collegno36[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFD700, align: right"]8.68244205[/TD]
[TD]I9123_Bronze_Age_Armenoi_Crete[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFD200, align: right"]8.83378175[/TD]
[TD]R111_Imperial_Era_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFD100, align: right"]8.84223954[/TD]
[TD]Szolad31[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFC200, align: right"]9.29782233[/TD]
[TD]scy192_Scythian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFC200, align: right"]9.30879691[/TD]
[TD]R33_Late_Antiquity_Mausole_di_Augusto[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFC000, align: right"]9.34955079[/TD]
[TD]Collegno23[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFBA00, align: right"]9.53899890[/TD]
[TD]R1_Iron_Age_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFB900, align: right"]9.55127740[/TD]
[TD]I4331_Balkans_BronzeAge[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFB800, align: right"]9.59662441[/TD]
[TD]I4332_Balkans_BronzeAge[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFB300, align: right"]9.74475756[/TD]
[TD]Bul6_Balkans_BronzeAge[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFB000, align: right"]9.81422437[/TD]
[TD]R1283_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFB000, align: right"]9.83482079[/TD]
[TD]France_IA_ERS88[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFAF00, align: right"]9.84937054[/TD]
[TD]I4054_SE_Iberia_c.3-4CE[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFA900, align: right"]10.03918323[/TD]
[TD]R36_Late_Antiquity_Celio[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFA400, align: right"]10.16986234[/TD]
[TD]R120_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFA400, align: right"]10.17686101[/TD]
[TD]Szolad36[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9600, align: right"]10.59019358[/TD]
[TD]R110_Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9600, align: right"]10.59060433[/TD]
[TD]R1016_Iron_Age_Castel_di_Decima[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9600, align: right"]10.59666457[/TD]
[TD]R1015_Iron_Age_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9300, align: right"]10.66505977[/TD]
[TD]Bul10_Balkans_BronzeAge[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9200, align: right"]10.70114013[/TD]
[TD]I2520_Balkans_BronzeAge[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9100, align: right"]10.74346778[/TD]
[TD]scy300_Scythian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF8D00, align: right"]10.84604536[/TD]
[TD]I12516_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
What I find interesting about the above is that in addition to all the Balkan Bronze Age, and what I find to be a surprisingly close relationship to Vucedol, is that I'm at an 8 to one of the Parma Beaker samples, which I'm assuming is the one that isn't all that steppe admixed, and it was found literally in Parma, where my father's family has lived for as long as anyone has records.


K13: it does have the Szolad, Collegno and Balkan Bronze Age samples. My Etruscan samples don't start showing up until around 9.
Before that come Croatia and Hungary Bronze Age and Croatia Iron Age.
[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #64FF00, align: right"]2.93497871[/TD]
[TD]SZ43_Hungary_Langobard.SG_1431_ybp[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #B8FF00, align: right"]5.41744405[/TD]
[TD]CL36_longobard_north_italy[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #C3FF00, align: right"]5.73090743[/TD]
[TD]I4331_Croatia_MBA_3526_ybp[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #CEFF00, align: right"]6.05641808[/TD]
[TD]R1287_Lazio_Rome_Medieval_Italy[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #CFFF00, align: right"]6.08392143[/TD]
[TD]scy300_Moldova_Scythian.SG_2253_ybp[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #E0FF00, align: right"]6.59609733[/TD]
[TD]SZ37_Hungary_Langobard_1447_ybp[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #E0FF00, align: right"]6.59807548[/TD]
[TD]SZ36_Hungary_Langobard.SG_1442_ybp[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9FF00, align: right"]6.86632362[/TD]
[TD]R33_Lazio_Rome_Early_Medieval_Italy[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #ECFF00, align: right"]6.93144285[/TD]
[TD]R1_Abruzzo_Teramo_Late_Bronze_Age_Italy[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F9FF00, align: right"]7.32957707[/TD]
[TD]R55_Lazio_Rome_Late_Medieval_Italy[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FBFF00, align: right"]7.39407871[/TD]
[TD]I7424_morisco_[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FCFF00, align: right"]7.40771220[/TD]
[TD]I7041_Hungary_BA_brother.I7043_4300_ybp[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFD00, align: right"]7.55432988[/TD]
[TD]scy305_Moldova_Scythian.SG_2254_ybp[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFB00, align: right"]7.63038007[/TD]
[TD]CL23_longobard_north_italy[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFF400, align: right"]7.83203039[/TD]
[TD]R36_Lazio_Rome_Italy_Late_Antiquity[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFF100, align: right"]7.92385007[/TD]
[TD]SZ31_Longobard_M_T1a1a_PF5620_U4c2a_60th_century[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFEB00, align: right"]8.08064973[/TD]
[TD]I3313_Croatia_Early_IA_2733_ybp[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFEA00, align: right"]8.12940342[/TD]
[TD]R1285_Lazio_Rome_Medieval_Italy[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFE200, align: right"]8.34281128[/TD]
[TD]R111_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFE000, align: right"]8.41153969[/TD]
[TD]col018_col018_M_R1b0Z2123_T2b_[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFDD00, align: right"]8.50960046[/TD]
[TD]I7425_morisco_[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFD900, align: right"]8.62188494[/TD]
[TD]I3499_Croatia_Starcevo_EN_o_4725_ybp[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFD600, align: right"]8.71884167[/TD]
[TD]STR535_Germany_Early_Medieval.SG_1491_ybp[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFD000, align: right"]8.89206388[/TD]
[TD]I4332_Croatia_MBA_3516_ybp[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFCD00, align: right"]8.97791178[/TD]
[TD]SZ32_Hungary_Langobard_1442_ybp[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFCC00, align: right"]8.98867621[/TD]
[TD]I12515_iberia_[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFCA00, align: right"]9.04961878[/TD]
[TD]R474b_Civitavecchia_Etruscan._Iron_Age[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFCA00, align: right"]9.06077259[/TD]
[TD]col001_col001_[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFC800, align: right"]9.11117995[/TD]
[TD]R118_Lazio_Rome_Italy_Late_Antiquity[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFC200, align: right"]9.28771231[/TD]
[TD]Crusader_SI41_Kingdom_of_Jerusalem_[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFC100, align: right"]9.33366488[/TD]
[TD]RISE374_Hungary_Maros.SG_3693_ybp[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFBF00, align: right"]9.37860864[/TD]
[TD]CL121_longobard_north_italy[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFBB00, align: right"]9.49464059[/TD]
[TD]R105_Lazio_Rome_Italy_Late_Antiquity[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFB600, align: right"]9.64738306[/TD]
[TD]ScythianMoldova_SCY300_Moldova_397-209_BC[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]



K15-not good at all...after 5 results it jumps to the 11 distance. It does get me at 5-6 to the Villanovan, but so do they all.
[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #C7FF00, align: right"]5.85241830[/TD]
[TD]IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFA400, align: right"]10.18406108[/TD]
[TD]IA_Civitavecchia_R474[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFA000, align: right"]10.28697234[/TD]
[TD]BronzAgeBalkan[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9200, align: right"]10.71314146[/TD]
[TD]EMBA_Croatia_I4331[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9100, align: right"]10.73127672[/TD]
[TD]Vucedol_I3499[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

MKLP K16 isn't even in the running. He must have next to no reference samples.
[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]angela[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFCB00, align: right"]9.01777134[/TD]
[TD]HungaryGamba_MBA.SG[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0020, align: right"]15.93470113[/TD]
[TD]Maros.SG[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0028, align: right"]16.18324133[/TD]
[TD]Bell_Beaker[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0048, align: right"]17.10485311[/TD]
[TD]Anatolian-Neolithic[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF005B, align: right"]17.68219161[/TD]
[TD]Vatya.SG[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF006B, align: right"]18.16034416[/TD]
[TD]GermanStuttgart_LBK[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0071, align: right"]18.31556988[/TD]
[TD]Anatolia_Neolithic[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0084, align: right"]18.89555768[/TD]
[TD]Tyrolean_Iceman[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF009C, align: right"]19.58309220[/TD]
[TD]Anatolia_Neolithic_1d_rel_I0736[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00A7, align: right"]19.91016072[/TD]
[TD]British-Celtic[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00B8, align: right"]20.42060724[/TD]
[TD]Bell_Beaker_Germany.SG[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00C3, align: right"]20.73815324[/TD]
[TD]Balkan-LBA[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00DF, align: right"]21.55132711[/TD]
[TD]Corded_Ware_Proto_Unetice_Poland.SG[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00E8, align: right"]21.81025447[/TD]
[TD]Bell_Beaker_Czech.SG[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00E8, align: right"]21.83292239[/TD]
[TD]Anatolia_ChL[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00ED, align: right"]21.95647513[/TD]
[TD]Unetice[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00EE, align: right"]22.00179765[/TD]
[TD]British-AngloSaxon[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00F2, align: right"]22.12755748[/TD]
[TD]Remedello_BA.SG[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00FE, align: right"]22.45759560[/TD]
[TD]British-IA[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #EB00FF, align: right"]23.09048938[/TD]
[TD]BattleAxe_Sweden.SG[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #E400FF, align: right"]23.30482568[/TD]
[TD]Nordic_Iron_Age[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #DD00FF, align: right"]23.50348698[/TD]
[TD]HungaryGamba_CA[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #CE00FF, align: right"]23.94682442[/TD]
[TD]Unetice_EBA.SG[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #C200FF, align: right"]24.29548312[/TD]
[TD]Irish-BA[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #BE00FF, align: right"]24.41342868[/TD]
[TD]Nordic_MN_B.SG[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
 
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