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italouruguayan said:
I was proud of my relationship with my admired Romans ... and now I have a relationship with one of his worst enemies ... I feel like a traitor ...:petrified::laughing:
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Very cool your results, ítalo.

I think that in my history of ancient samples I alternate between conquered (Iberian and Celtiberian) and conquerors (Gallo-Romans). :laughing:

I believe that all we are a little bit of each one, lol.

Today I'm a little tired.:grin:

Tomorrow (here in Brazil and there in Uruguay)I am going to check my new results and see what changed in my MTA . After, I will post.

Cheers. :good_job:
 
italouruguayan said:
I was proud of my relationship with my admired Romans ... and now I have a relationship with one of his worst enemies ... I feel like a traitor ...:petrified::laughing:
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It can't be true. You're one of us. :) Maybe it just doesn't work as well for people who aren't as inbred as some of us. :)

My husband studied the classics in university. He had a great liking for Marcus Aurelius, kept a copy of his Meditations around, which was fine, but he also really liked Cato the Censor. I couldn't stand him. He thought Cato had strength of character and determination; I thought Cato was a bit mad, and a bore as well, and a perfect example of someone who could never forgive or forget. Talk about obsessions: whenever he was in the Senate, which was probably always, and no matter the topic of the discussion, whether it was the aqueduct or the sewers, or how much to pay for bread, he ended each lecture with: "Carthago Delenda Est" or Carthage Must Be Destroyed, and it was; he helped push Rome into the final war, and Carthage was destroyed and its people all sold into slavery. Total War first millennium B.C. style. Not their most admirable moment imo, but there you go, I guess that's how you build empires. The other total war was against the Jews, another bull-headed people. It didn't work out for them either.

Then, like all empires, it fell. Climate, disease and other things finally brought them low. How the mighty are fallen, right?

I'm reading a good book about it: The Fate of Rome; Climate, Disease and the End of Empire. I recommend it.
 
... Tour of Italy, my Ancient Paesani, one of each, ... North to South:

You have ancient relatives! (you share identified DNA segments)

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Maciamo said:
I match both samples at a GD of about 14.
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Your result is not bad. I am a little further away, which is not bad either considering that I am further away geographically and exposed to other combinations that in turn are subject to the historical events of my specific territory; Although I have results that I consider to be quite pig, the closer it would be to be walking through Paris today.

In GD I have not tried
 
Previous samples had shown that modern Belgians's dominant ancestry was Germanic (Frankish and Saxon), but with a substantial minority of Celtic. The new Gaulish and Belgic samples show give even closer matches than earlier Proto-Celtic ones from Bronze Age Germany.

I have a dozen Belgian genomes. Here are the closest Celtic and Germanic matches so far are. I have excluded mixed ethnicities, although Frankish-Gaulish or Danish-Celtic tend to get the closest matches.

Closest Germanic matches by ethnic group

- Lombard (Hungary) : 3.1
- Visigoth Frankish (Girona, Spain) : 4.3
- Frankish (Hungary) : 5.1
- Alemannic Bavaria (450 CE) : 5.2
- Saxon (Hinxton, England) : 6.1
- Medieval Denmark : 6.6
- Swiss Germanic (580 CE) : 7.5

Closest Celtic matches

- Bronze Age Unetice culture (Prague, Czechia) : 4.1
- Bell Beaker Scotland : 5.8
- Iron Age Colmar (Alsace, France) : 5.9
- Bronze Age Bischwihr (Alsace, France) : 7.1
- Iron Age Belgic Tribe Nordhouse (Alsace, France) : 7.5
 
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well, if I go by my top matches:

1. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 3.568 - SZ43 - [FONT=&quot] [FONT=&quot][/FONT]
Top
99 %​
match vs all users[/FONT]

2. Central Roman (630 AD) ..... 4.975 - CL36 - [FONT=&quot] ? [FONT=&quot][/FONT]
Top
99 %​
match vs all users[/FONT]

3. Tuscan Medieval Villa Magna Italy (905 AD) ..... 6.017 - R60 - [FONT=&quot] [FONT=&quot][/FONT]
Top
99 %​
match vs all users[/FONT]

4. Protovillanovia Martinsicuro (930 BC) ..... 6.279 - R1 - [FONT=&quot] [FONT=&quot][/FONT]
Top
99 %​
match vs all users[/FONT]

5. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 7.029 - SZ36 - [FONT=&quot] [FONT=&quot][/FONT]
Top
99 %​
match vs all users

1)SZ43::1. Tuscan (5.029)[/FONT]
2. North_Italian (8.337)
3. Albanian_Tosk (8.892)
4. Kosovar (9.972)
5. Italian_Abruzzo (10.12)
6. West_Sicilian (10.53)
7. Greek (11.71)
8. Greek_Thessaly (12.65)

2)1. Tuscan (6.059)
2. North_Italian (6.723)
3. Albanian_Tosk (11.58)
4. Italian_Abruzzo (11.87)
5. West_Sicilian (12.53)
6. Kosovar (12.61)
7. Spanish_Extremadura (13.81)
8. Spanish_Murcia (13.89)

3)1. Tuscan (5.034)
2. Italian_Abruzzo (7.080)
3. West_Sicilian (8.330)
4. Albanian_Tosk (9.279)
5. East_Sicilian (10.69)
6. Central_Greek (10.77)
7. North_Italian (11.17)
8. Greek (11.32)

4)1. North_Italian (5.281)
2. Tuscan (8.820)
3. Spanish_Andalucia (9.947)
4. Spanish_Murcia (11.02)
5. Spanish_Valencia (11.12)
6. Spanish_Extremadura (11.12)
7. Kosovar (11.37)
8. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (11.94)

5)1. Tuscan (2.937)
2. Albanian_Tosk (7.987)
3. North_Italian (8.213)
4. West_Sicilian (8.444)
5. Kosovar (8.963)
6. Italian_Abruzzo (9.271)
7. Greek (9.454)
8. Greek_Thessaly (10.26)

This tool puts me closer to Florentines than any other one I've used, but I'm more than happy with that. :)
 
Just reuploaded my kit since it expired. I got new closest ancient match

1000 BC - Bronze Age Szolad Hungary at genetic distance 7.1

also got 605 AD - Byzantine Roman Warrior at genetic distance 8.5

other then that Romans are my closest at 7.9



Also it finds my ethnicity pretty accurate:


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1. Kosovar (3.828)
2. Albanian_Tosk (5.661)
3. Bulgarian (6.538)
4. Greek (8.042)
5. Bosnian (8.613)
6. Romanian (9.028)
7. Greek_Thessaly (9.564)
8. Macedonian (9.654)
 
Angela said:
well, if I go by my top matches:

1. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 3.568 - SZ43 -
Top
99 %​
match vs all users

2. Central Roman (630 AD) ..... 4.975 - CL36 - ?
99 %​
match vs all users

3. Tuscan Medieval Villa Magna Italy (905 AD) ..... 6.017 - R60 -
Top
99 %​
match vs all users

4. Protovillanovia Martinsicuro (930 BC) ..... 6.279 - R1 -
Top
99 %​
match vs all users

5. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 7.029 - SZ36 -
Top
99 %​
match vs all users

1)SZ43::1. Tuscan (5.029)
2. North_Italian (8.337)
3. Albanian_Tosk (8.892)
4. Kosovar (9.972)
5. Italian_Abruzzo (10.12)
6. West_Sicilian (10.53)
7. Greek (11.71)
8. Greek_Thessaly (12.65)

2)1. Tuscan (6.059)
2. North_Italian (6.723)
3. Albanian_Tosk (11.58)
4. Italian_Abruzzo (11.87)
5. West_Sicilian (12.53)
6. Kosovar (12.61)
7. Spanish_Extremadura (13.81)
8. Spanish_Murcia (13.89)

3)1. Tuscan (5.034)
2. Italian_Abruzzo (7.080)
3. West_Sicilian (8.330)
4. Albanian_Tosk (9.279)
5. East_Sicilian (10.69)
6. Central_Greek (10.77)
7. North_Italian (11.17)
8. Greek (11.32)

4)1. North_Italian (5.281)
2. Tuscan (8.820)
3. Spanish_Andalucia (9.947)
4. Spanish_Murcia (11.02)
5. Spanish_Valencia (11.12)
6. Spanish_Extremadura (11.12)
7. Kosovar (11.37)
8. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (11.94)

5)1. Tuscan (2.937)
2. Albanian_Tosk (7.987)
3. North_Italian (8.213)
4. West_Sicilian (8.444)
5. Kosovar (8.963)
6. Italian_Abruzzo (9.271)
7. Greek (9.454)
8. Greek_Thessaly (10.26)

This tool puts me closer to Florentines than any other one I've used, but I'm more than happy with that. :)
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31. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 14.36 - SZ43
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Top 5
1. Hellenic Roman Monterotondo (165 AD) ..... 10.25 - R1548 South_Italian

2. Tuscan Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (1350 AD) ..... 10.85 - R1290 Tuscan

3. Hellenic Roman (590 AD) ..... 11.6 - SZ40 Italian_Abruzzo

4. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 11.76 - SZ36 Tuscan

5. Imperial Rome Centocelle (200 AD) ..... 11.82 - R49 South_Italian

I think, ... distances: Clearly there’s an Ancient Population that has not yet been tested, ... the MESSAPI ... maybe :grin:

@MTA
... if you find and add the Messapi I’ll upgrade to Olympus :satisfied:
 
Angela said:
It can't be true. You're one of us. :) Maybe it just doesn't work as well for people who aren't as inbred as some of us. :)

My husband studied the classics in university. He had a great liking for Marcus Aurelius, kept a copy of his Meditations around, which was fine, but he also really liked Cato the Censor. I couldn't stand him. He thought Cato had strength of character and determination; I thought Cato was a bit mad, and a bore as well, and a perfect example of someone who could never forgive or forget. Talk about obsessions: whenever he was in the Senate, which was probably always, and no matter the topic of the discussion, whether it was the aqueduct or the sewers, or how much to pay for bread, he ended each lecture with: "Carthago Delenda Est" or Carthage Must Be Destroyed, and it was; he helped push Rome into the final war, and Carthage was destroyed and its people all sold into slavery. Total War first millennium B.C. style. Not their most admirable moment imo, but there you go, I guess that's how you build empires. The other total war was against the Jews, another bull-headed people. It didn't work out for them either.

Then, like all empires, it fell. Climate, disease and other things finally brought them low. How the mighty are fallen, right?

I'm reading a good book about it: The Fate of Rome; Climate, Disease and the End of Empire. I recommend it.
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Thanks Angela! :) Without a doubt, Cato was a man with a goal in his life. But after Carthage was destroyed and its site cursed with salt, the Romans, with their proverbial pragmatism, built in their place a new Carthage that was one of the main cities of the Roman Empire. I will try to get the book you recommend, it must be Very interesting.My matches with Carthaginians have surprised me, Mytrueancestry is a real box of surprises ...
 
Duarte said:
Very cool your results, ítalo.

I think that in my history of ancient samples I alternate between conquered (Iberian and Celtiberian) and conquerors (Gallo-Romans). :laughing:

I believe that all we are a little bit of each one, lol.

Today I'm a little tired.:grin:

Tomorrow (here in Brazil and there in Uruguay)I am going to check my new results and see what changed in my MTA . After, I will post.

Cheers. :good_job:
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Hello Duarte!

This hobby combines several things that have interested me since my adolescence: biological sciences and history. When I did my first genetic study, my interest was to know how many and what were my non-European components (which were evident in my maternal family), and my relationship with the Romans in the components inherited from my paternal side (ethnically 100% Italian) . In general, the results corroborated my previous assumptions, with some small surprises: my component from sub-Saharan Africa was lower than I thought (3%), the Native American component was higher (18%), and my Y-DNA indicated a possible relationship with those who contributed to destroy the Roman Empire (R1b U 106).
And now, Mytrueancestry contributes more surprises ...
 
Looks like these guys are Swiss Italians. Very dishonorable at making money in a grey zone lol.
 
Progon said:
Looks like these guys are Swiss Italians. Very dishonorable at making money in a grey zone lol.
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Perhaps you'd care to explain yourself in English, if you please.
 
Surely many have not seen matches like these ...



Your closest Americas matches...
(Smaller numbers mean closer matches to you)

1. Iroquois Tribe Droulers St. Lawrence River (1515 AD) ..... 48.38 - DR-1797s-16061L
Top 1 % match vs all users

2. Iroquois Tribe Droulers St. Lawrence River (1515 AD) ..... 50.64 - DR-984-13054-1
Top 1 % match vs all users

3. Pacific Northwest Amerindian (850 AD) ..... 55.04 - BC386 - ?
Top 1 % match vs all users

4. Iroquois Tribe Droulers St. Lawrence River (1515 AD) ..... 56.89 - DR-984
Top 1 % match vs all users

5. Pacific Northwest Amerindian (150 AD) ..... 58.32 - BC125
Top 1 % match vs all users

6. Native American Washington State (6300 BC) ..... 58.56 - Kennewick
Top 1 % match vs all users

7. Amerindian Mikmaq New Brunswick (1625 AD) ..... 58.69 - MARC1492 -
Top 1 % match vs all users

8. Inuit Bering Strait (1325 AD) ..... 59.72 - I1125 -
Top 1 % match vs all users

9. Bering Sea (475 AD) ..... 59.85 - I7621 - ?
Top 1 % match vs all users

10. Alaskan Athabaskan (1235 AD) ..... 59.96 - I5320 -
Top 1 % match vs all users
 
Mine:

Ancients:

Byzantine + Gallo-Roman (8.744)
Byzantine + Roman (9.342)
Seleucid + Roman (9.892)
Seleucid + Gallo-Roman (10.0)
Seleucid + Byzantine (12.77)
Roman (13.6)
Seleucid (15.26)
Byzantine (16.07)
Gallo-Roman (19.47)


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Modern

1. Greek (6.885)
2. Kosovar (7.737)
3. Bulgarian (8.965)
4. Albanian_Tosk (9.845)
5. Macedonian (11.75)
6. Bosnian (11.75)
7. Greek_Thessaly (12.19)
8. Romanian (12.46)
 

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